 Poster: A snowHead
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Bindings are the performance link between your boots and the skiis
... choose wisely, but how might you push limits, yet never sacrifice basic safety ?
(obviously tryin' to set up a discussion with the forums experts, as well as some learnin' for the n00bies)
So, what's good or not so good ... materials /quality or engineering /design ... pricing ... (???)
... with any dynafits that were ever gracing any of your boards / rails, eh ?
here's starting off with a template used for all Dynafit models ... except demo and radical models
btw, same template for G3 Onyx bindings
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0SnAf18fUXAWG9xeEt1dnFPcEE/edit?resourcekey=0-lI64GhBjaDL07HzwVWRZ-Q
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| snowbunny21 wrote: |
Bindings are the performance link between your boots and the skiis
... choose wisely, but how might you push limits, yet never sacrifice basic safety ?
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So ... let the arguments start ... but I'll point out that binding brakes are ... definitely, unequivocably ... optional.
totally optional - unnecessary extra baggage, really
/edit in jpg/ with/without optional binding brake
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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ATK. With brakes!
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| BobinCH wrote: |
| ATK. With brakes! |
Nice choice of course ...
... now that I have some attention ... here's my situation ... not a conundrum, but in need of a solution.
My (prolly erroneous, so slam away snowheads) response is ...
no brakes, or bend brakes out (??)
skiis are a 93 mm waist ... clean, new last year model and no binding yet/ no re-drilling will be needed
Dynafit are 90mm - 105mm - 120mm brake widths available, some models have integrated brakes
ski manufacturer recommends a 93 - 103 brake width
but there is more ... these all-mountain skiis are now likely gonna be getting "binding inserts" ... bindings can be switched if used for touring,
(recommendation from dynafit to use binding inserts, bindings change out in 10 min. (? one ski .. or both in 10 min. haha)
touring bindings is a heavy Dynafit market I guess ... but then HAVE to be same manufacturer for resort use binding (or identical template at least if different binding manufacturer)
https://www.snowboardmaterials.com/index.php/materials/binding-inserts
to be continued
(coffee brewing, so gonna watch the snow on the outdoor table from last night and replays of Killington Slalom - first place tie)
(btw Suisse had at least four in the Slalom on Sunday ... Lara Gut-Behrami, Camille Rast, Andrea Ellenberger, and Simone Wild,
and France had a couple beside Tessa Worley ... Michelle Gisin and another I think)
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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You'll need to Register first of course.
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Spark tech toes for the more enlightened/classier choice of vehicle
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ATK, no one else covers it as well
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
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... and then again ... a 90mm binding brake gets recommended here for a 93 wide ski waist ... so, progress today 
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| - 90mm brake is ideal for skis 86 - 93mm underfoot |
https://www.powder7.com/Atomic-Warden-MNC-11-Ski-Bindings/sale
Thanks for the leads and clues or any critiques from the forum experts ... new adventure for me with all-mountain skiis -
novice comments or questions welcomed too. We're all learnin' something maybe ...
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| snowbunny21 wrote: |
My (prolly erroneous, so slam away snowheads) response is ...
no brakes, or bend brakes out (??)
skiis are a 93 mm waist ... clean, new last year model and no binding yet/ no re-drilling will be needed |
Totally fine to bend the brakes 3mm - they might well fit without bending anyway. I’ve gone brakeless before and it was fine, but you do have to be careful with skis when transitioning so they don’t slide away… Would also recommend the B&D leashes (available from Spyderjon) with a break point (in case of avalanche etc) if you go that route.
Re. the inserts, yeah probably more like 10 mins per ski to remove one binding and add on another. But I am pretty sure you won’t find ANY alpine binding that fits the hole pattern of dynafits. Inserts are usually used to use one pair of bindings across multiple skis, not multiple bindings on one ski. You should still be able to make it work though; you’ll just have to play around with how the hole patterns overlap to make sure no holes are too close together.
Or just get Shifts and never have to deal with the insert faff again 
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Shifts are heavy. Just remove the brakes, and personally, I’d bin the leashes too.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| zzz wrote: |
| Shifts are heavy. Just remove the brakes, and personally, I’d bin the leashes too. |
honest question zzz ... are some brakes not separatable ... totally integrated ... ?
yeah, someone said use a leash instead ... uhhh ... NO !
a little macabre but ... say an avalanche hits / slab seperates technically ...
and you have to avoid trees (big cause of avalanche fatalities but ... wait ...
the leash catches a pine branch and all is no chance)
anyhoooo ... agreed no leash ... they probably cause accidents and injuries... bottom line has to be safety of life and limb,of course don't ski in a crowd someone is gonna tumble
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@snowbunny21,
Don’t know about brake removal on the shift but on any lightweight touring binding I’ve used they are optional. I have also given up leashes. I find them a PITA and in twenty years have yet to have a touring ski release (not necessarily a good thing!). I think if the crash was bad enough to release the ski then I’d be as likely to receive a head injury from the flailing ski attached by the leash.
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Poster: A snowHead
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| ...given up leashes. I find them a PITA ... receive a head injury from the flailing ski attached by the leash |
Agree with all the above, however as per my earlier post I've become a convert to the b&d ones.
They are long enough that risk of a flailing ski hitting you in a fall is minimised.
They still have the potential to be a PITA used in the original way (ie attached to the ski & clipped round your leg, so flail around when carrying skis etc)
However if you look at the image I posted above, I've got them attached to the boot, so v. easy to clip to the ski before you even put it down on the snow, (so no bending over to clip the leash etc.) And for walking you just clip it out of the way round the boot...
Sorted
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| ...given up leashes. I find them a PITA ... receive a head injury from the flailing ski attached by the leash |
Agree with all the above, however as per my earlier post I've become a convert to the b&d ones.
They are long enough that risk of a flailing ski hitting you in a fall is minimised.
They still have the potential to be a PITA used in the original way (ie attached to the ski & clipped round your leg, so flail around when carrying skis etc)
However if you look at the image I posted above, I've got them attached to the boot (with paracord protected from edges with plastic tubing) so v. easy to clip to the ski before you even put it down on the snow, (no bending over to clip the leash etc.) And for walking you just clip it out of the way round the boot...
Sorted
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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You need to Login to know who's really who.
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| zzz wrote: |
| Shifts are heavy. Just remove the brakes, and personally, I’d bin the leashes too. |
Another reason you MUST use leashes is touring in glaciated terrain - there's no way you should be walking around on a glacier recovering a lost ski.
On a hut to hut tour in the Maurienne our guide insisted that the skiers with brakes got leashes before we headed off 
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