Poster: A snowHead
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Hi equipment experts,
I've been using Bolle OTG goggles for a few years and they've been great but are now scratched so I need to replace them.
My current lens are "Lime" which is listed as Cat 2 (18% trans) and have been great but are now discontinued.
On the basis that if it ain't broke don't fix it I'm going to go with the same model (Bolle Y6 OTG) but have to choose a new lens. Now I'll admit that all this colour/lens stuff confuses me.
It looks like their new Cat 2 lens is "vermillion" (trans 20%) but they also do a more expensive photochromic cat 1-3 'green emerald' lens which gives transmission of 12-56%
So I'd welcome opinions on whether it's worth trying the green Emerald, are these trying to do everything so are useless or are they genuinely flexible ?
edit forgot to include link
https://www.bolle.com/gb/snow-goggles/y6-otg-2507.html
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Dunno. But I have a couple of pairs of Salomon photochromic goggles and they work fine in all conditions for me (there's a separate clear lens for night use). When I originally tried to compare brands I found it a challenge as they quoted transmission differently, but for me, these work great in all conditions and are especially useful when transitioning from open areas into trees for example. They're not quite as dark as the darkest lenses, and not as bright as the brightest, but you never have to change a lens.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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FWIW. I would go for their semi polarised photochromic lens.
I have what used to be called Modulator "Light Control", using a high quality NXT lens (semi polarised). I am not familiar with their current lenses.
Edit. These are the lenses I'm talking about (scroll down page for info): https://www.glisshop.co.uk/accessories/goggles/bolle/?pageNumber-10=2
Last edited by Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see? on Tue 4-01-22 12:36; edited 3 times in total
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MY partner is always looking for new kit and was looking at photochromic lenses as the strap on her Oakleys is about shot and she like the idea of not having to change lenses - she has 4 from bright sun to totally clear
I dont know of anyone who uses them but I do know that for motorcycle visors, they dont change as quickly and as @philwig says, they are neither as light or as dark as you may want them at the extremes but it saves lugging lenses around
Brightness aside, I dont know if they filter light in the same way as some flat light lenses
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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We have a couple of pairs of Bolle ones but don't really get on with them. Even in overcast conditions they are too dark and never seem to lighten properly. These days I stick with a dedicated Cat 1 low-light lens and a pair of sunglasses in my pocket for bright conditions.
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Old Fartbag wrote: |
FWIW. I would go for their semi polarised photochromic lens.
I have what used to be called Modulator "Light Control", using a high quality NXT lens (semi polarised). I am not familiar with their current lenses.
Edit. These are the lenses I'm talking about (scroll down page for info): https://www.glisshop.co.uk/accessories/goggles/bolle/?pageNumber-10=2 |
thanks that seems to be the same lens, or at least use the same acronyms
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Klamm Franzer wrote: |
We have a couple of pairs of Bolle ones but don't really get on with them. Even in overcast conditions they are too dark and never seem to lighten properly. These days I stick with a dedicated Cat 1 low-light lens and a pair of sunglasses in my pocket for bright conditions. |
That might be why I like them, my eyes are very sensitive to bright light. I also have another pair for very flat light days.
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Gotta say I'm not a fan, not tried recently but did a couple of years back, they seemed to get easily confused/slow to react, id much rather take lenses for the conditions i see out of the window.
If in doubt ill take a spare lens, i break/scratch goggles for fun so not into paying big money for them, currently using Dirty Dog Mutant, cat1 orange lens and cat3 in the box and magnetic change so it can be done in seconds/on the lift. think they're £60ish inc 2 lenses
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richb67 wrote: |
Old Fartbag wrote: |
FWIW. I would go for their semi polarised photochromic lens.
I have what used to be called Modulator "Light Control", using a high quality NXT lens (semi polarised). I am not familiar with their current lenses.
Edit. These are the lenses I'm talking about (scroll down page for info): https://www.glisshop.co.uk/accessories/goggles/bolle/?pageNumber-10=2 |
thanks that seems to be the same lens, or at least use the same acronyms |
The Bolles belong to my Wife. This is a review of what she has: https://gearinstitute.com/gear-review/bolle-gravity-with-modulator-light-control-lens/
I use Oakley Prizm Rose or Torch, which cover most conditions, without being photochromic. The former has more emphasis on lower light and the latter more emphasis on brighter light.
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I have a pair of these Bolle Y6 OTG Ski Goggles – Shiny Black with Modulator Citrus Gun S1-3 Lens .
Had them for 6 years now excellent in all light conditions.
Only minor issue is crossing from extremely bright sun into deep shadow when I would prefer that they reacted quicker, they're quick but I'd like quicker. I believe the latest photochromic lenses are quicker.
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Timc wrote: |
... I believe the latest photochromic lenses are quicker. |
It takes maybe 3-5 seconds for my Salomons to switch when I ride into a dark forest, the only time I ever notice them. I don't ride slowly and I hate stopping.
There's no way you could stop and change lenses faster than that, so "speed" is not an issue for me.
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@richb67, "Now I'll admit that all this colour/lens stuff confuses me."
The different manufacturers use these words mostly in the same reference, but with some artistic and advertising license
Photo, usually meaning responding to (photons) light level with compensating desnsity to deliver to the eye a "constant" light level within technical range.
Chroma, colour that the lens is usually transmitting to your eye. If you are successful in using "lime" then a continuation would be logical in keeping to that. Alternatively a significant difference in colour may of may not give benefit, but you'd really need to assess it, as any colour bias present in you can give a very different outlook to others, or they may succeed with impaired colour vision that you will never see. Trial is the only foolproof way with this, especially if you know you have colour vision tested as out of range.
Polarisation, has very limited use in snow environments. Deals with planar (flat surface) light reflecting from subject, glass, water, painted etc, as most light in snow environments is specular (broken into small points) and unaffected by polarisation.
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I am very happy with my poc nxt photochromic lense. Unfortunately they have been discontinued. Will be hunting for another pair of photochromic goggles when they are knackered.
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You know it makes sense.
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thanks everyone, I just went to order the photochromatic ones but they seem to be out of stock everywhere reputable except Bolle where they're twice the price so have gone for the newer model with the photochromatic lens, lets see what they're like.
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