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Atomic Cuff Alignment

 Poster: A snowHead
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I have knock knees thus my calves are much closer to the medial side of the cuffs. I notice how this affects my skiing as I tend to tip both feet to the inner edges and is much harder for me to tip skis to the outer edges.

I believe I need to tilt cuffs internally to match my calves, but I don't really know how to do the tilting with my boots. I've been playing with the cuff alignment of my Atomic Hawx Ultra (see link to picture below), but only obtained almost unnoticeable changes.

Do you know how (clockwise or counterclockwise) I should turn the internal and external cuff adjustments of both boots to have them tilted internally?

Also, do I need to loosen the powershift (forward lean adjuster) bolt in the back of the boot to perform the cuff adjustment?

PD: I find amazing that Atomic customer support say they are not allowed to provide this info, and only provides the option of a bootfitter... Shocked

Atomic Hawx Ultra Cuff adjustment picture
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@asanmart, You won't fix a leg alignment problem by moving the boot cuff. Go to a bootfitter.
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colgate sell toothpaste, but if your teeth are wonkey might suggest a dentist
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This might help understand alignment better: https://www.solutions4feet.com/services/skier-alignment
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Already got custom footbeds from bootfitter and got some improvement with that.

As I see it, next step is proper cuff alignment and as I don't have easy access to a bootfitter I wanted to play a bit with it, following instructions from different internet resources like this one:
https://skiracing.com/your-straightforward-guide-to-boot-cuff-alignment/

Then if this is not good enough I would consider revisiting a bootfitter for further fitting like sole canting.
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@asanmart, Atomic customer service are generally there to help with product queries but not technical ones, they are not boot fitters

the cuff adjustment on that boot gives between 1and 1.5 degrees of movement in either direction, the idea is to move the cuffs (inwards in your case) to match closer to the curvature of the lower leg, often there is not enough play to get you dead center but more importantly your footbed must support your foot in a neutral position, all to often they simply are not doing the job properly

the correct order of events

correct size, volume and flex of boot
custom footbed WHICH IS NOT pronated
cuffs adjusted
underboot canting

whilst you can adjust the cuff yourself actually seeing how far out you are needs another person to do it accurately and as for a footbed and or underboot canting that is where a boot fitter comes in, there aren't too many who can do the underboot work as it requires specialist tooling
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Thank you all for your replies.

I totally agree with the suggested steps and luckily enough those are the ones I am following with my boots.

By the way @CEM what do you mean by avoiding pronated footbeds? If I'm a pronator shouldn't the custom footbed support my arch?

I finally managed to do the cuff alignment after unscrewing the stiffener bolt, seems that was stopping the cuff to tilt. As @CEM suggested even after adjusting to the max the boot allowed, I'm not dead center but far better than I was before.

Next step is to try them on the slopes and consider the canting. I like the approach you have in solutions4feet, unluckily I don't live in the UK...
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@asanmart, we are all pronators, perhaps we mean over pronator. What CEM is saying is that while you have footbeds, there's a greater chance they are badly made than correctly made. Many shops have the tools and materials to make footbeds but make useless footbeds. You can give anyone a piano and they can make a noise..........
So he's saying first get a second opinion, maybe third or fourth on the footbeds, make sure they are playing the right tune! Next realign the cuff in the best position to follow the angle/shape of your lower leg, if this doesn't work, go have a canting session done at a good store with the right tools........
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CH2O wrote:
colgate sell toothpaste, but if your teeth are wonkey might suggest a dentist

would that not be an orthodontist for wonky teeth?
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