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It's touring time again. I can ski pretty well, don't want to jump but pretty tight in general.
I go for a tour put a pack on and it goes wrong. Weight feels back and turns suffer. I'm going to fanny round with the pack and straps and the such. But does anyone have tips?
Going to do a lot more touring this year, is that all it takes?
Thanks for any help.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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options ..
Go lighter..
Load up friends pack with your gear..
Carry the weight of pack on your hips...
Man up, get in its face and commit to those turns ...
.... but Definitely Telemark
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@motdoc,
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put a pack on and it goes wrong. Weight feels back and turns suffer.
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... but seriously : first time I skiid with touring kit on my back, once I'd got used to the weight etc I actually found it made me ski better.
You must really focus on skiing with a quiet upper body (with no rotation), otherwise the momentum of the pack just carries on and pulls you round.
As mentioned above, weight carried on the hip-belt and try to keep heavier stuff down low in the pack
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Ski with a pack all the time and you’ll get used to it soon enough.
Aside from that, how much stuff are you carrying? Looking at your location, if you’re doing stuff off the top of the lifts at Whitewater you shouldn’t need much more than skins, an extra layer, water, snacks and avvy/safety kit. You can get that into a minimal pack - 20l or less.
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@motdoc,
Get the heavier stuff in your backpack close to your back. This reduces the swing effect of the backpack as you turn. Make sure the backpack is close to your back too by adjusting the shoulder straps.
Try to do squats on the balls of your feet on a step while wearing your fully packed backpack. This makes you more sensitive to the weight of the backpack pulling you into the backseat and strengthens your legs at the same time. Squats on a BOSU with the backpack are also good.
Core strengthening exercises reduce the effects of a heavy backpack too.
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The pic above shows how carrying weight low down in the pack is the equivalent of sticking your bum out a long way, whereas weight in the top of the pack is right over the centre-line of the body and the turn. Clearly its a trade-off, in that you lose some vertical stability with the weight up high, but is having weight low really best?
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@motdoc, The only advice i'd give if touring is make sure it's a lightweight airbag rucksack rather than a conventional one. If you are looking for one I have a decent sized ABS touring one i'm soon going to be selling, very good condition. Apologies for unsolicited sales pitch
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motdoc wrote: |
It's touring time again. I can ski pretty well, don't want to jump but pretty tight in general.
I go for a tour put a pack on and it goes wrong. Weight feels back and turns suffer. I'm going to fanny round with the pack and straps and the such. But does anyone have tips?
Going to do a lot more touring this year, is that all it takes?
Thanks for any help. |
It's just practice really. Obviously you need to adjust your body position a bit - the rucsac will move your CoG back unless you change your posture. I think that all I do is to bend a little more at the waist so that my shoulders move forward slightly. It doesn't need much.
But it is good to go as light as possible and strap down compression straps etc to pull the weight close to your back - I think that is more important than weight low vs high. Ski specific rucsacs tend to be designed to be very close fitting for a reason.
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You must really focus on skiing with a quiet upper body (with no rotation), otherwise the momentum of the pack just carries on and pulls you round.
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THIS!!!
Practice by skiing with a full pack when you're not touring.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Thanks for a the tips. The over rotating thing sounds like me when it falls apart a bit.
I'll definitely get on the core and balance exercises as well!
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