 Poster: A snowHead
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Hi guys.
After a few ski days in Zermatt last week I decided to buy a heated glove.
I don't think there is anything wrong with my non heated glove, I just think I have a circulation problem, among all of my friends there I was the only one with freezing fingers, even in the gondola before getting on the pistes. The average temperature there ranged from -5ºC to -20ºC.
Currently I have this one: https://www.burton.com/nl/en/p/mens-burton-gondy-goretex-leather-glove/W21-103261.html . It is a really warm one, when I'm skiing at the end of the season when it is around 10ºC, my hand keeps sweating, but if it goes below 0ºC, my hands will be freezing, I even bought a basic liner at H&M to use under it and it is not enough, so I guess I need heated ones.
I would love the Hestra heated ones(https://en-nl.hestragloves.com/products/30440-100-power-heater-black) but 400 euros is a bit too much for me 
Any tips for something more affordable that can heat enough and last for at least 6h on the mountain ?
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@AndreSilva, What’s your layering system (around your body, specifically)?
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| AL9000 wrote: |
| @AndreSilva, What’s your layering system (around your body, specifically)? |
Base layer(something like long sleeve for runners in the cold) + midlayer(usually fleece) + ski shell jacket. Sometimes I get a bit cold in the torso, but nothing that bothers me much.
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@AndreSilva, I have the same set up and I run hot; that is, I’m normally hot everywhere (possibly due to my natural insulation  ).
Maybe try a gilet over the fleece? They’re very thin but very effective insulation.
Do your toes become cold too?
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As with above, try extra layer keep your torso warm and that help with extremities like hands and feet. Otherwise your body / circulation prioritises keeping your torso warm (as that's where vital organs are) over your feet and toes which are expendable  .
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Things that provide heat in cold climates don't last very long, and one gets what one pays for. It is true that a warm torso is key to warm extremities, so to save money you could focus on warming your hands indirectly in that way. And get some spring gloves for those really warm days, I use XC gloves for that.
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If you have a circulation problem like Raynauds Syndrome (like my Daughter) - then heated Gloves (or in her case, heated Glove Liners) is the only thing that works in colder weather.
If you just suffer colds hands - mittens with Glove Liners can work. One of the warmest mittens I know, is the Black Diamond Mercury (they can be got on Amazon for about £67).
Liners can be Silk/Primaloft/Merino.
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Do your toes become cold too?
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If not, glove liners are a good call.
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Try kinko 94hk - bomb proof and cheap work gloves. What a lot of lifties use. Not waterproof but fine for snow use loaded up with wax.
They are the warmest gloves I’ve ever used, made for working in snow all day.
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Cold blood = cold fingers.
Coverup your main arteries.
Big heat is lost from the widest bloodvessels nearest the surface of the skin.
Neck.
Head.
Lower back.
Thighs.
Wrists.
Two (or more) layers on each.
Wrist and neck gaiters make a big difference.
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@AndreSilva, As a fellow cold hand sufferer, I’ve tried multiple heated glove brands, and the best I’ve tried are Outdoor Research Lucent gloves, they aren’t cheap, but they aren’t as expensive as some others, and can often be found at a discount. They can be had as gloves or mittens, and should last for your required 6 hours.
The trick for long battery life with heated gloves, is to use a heat setting where the gloves don’t feel hot, your hands/fingers just don’t feel cold.
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| AndreSilva wrote: |
| AL9000 wrote: |
| @AndreSilva, What’s your layering system (around your body, specifically)? |
Base layer(something like long sleeve for runners in the cold) + midlayer(usually fleece) + ski shell jacket. Sometimes I get a bit cold in the torso, but nothing that bothers me much. |
If it's significantly below zero, I'd have a gilet as well - adds a lot of warmth without too much bulk. I also swap my thermal legs for fleece, and then if I'm still getting cold fingers, mittens. I often find the tips of my fingers get cold to start with, but then warm up once I've been active for 15 minutes or so.
If you don't like full mittens, lobster claw gloves are a good compromise. And I suspect that heated mittens might be less prone to failure than heated gloves (simpler pattern for the elements) though I don't have any evidence for that.
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You know it makes sense.
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Get a pair of mitts.
I use Hestra Army mitts and never get cold fingers but sometimes did with gloves on cold.days.
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I'm a cold hands sufferer too, and discovered that it seemed mostly to occur after lunch/food stops.
The implication being that the blood flow was diverted to digestive purposes rather than extremities. One of the easiest ways to make a large improvement in warmth of any glove is to add a goretex overmitt
. This is often better than wearing liners which sometimes make gloves tighter, reducing insulation and warmth rather than improving it.
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Poster: A snowHead
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We went with therm-ic heated mittens and found them very good.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Mention of Raynauds reminds me of something I read about for sailing a few years ago (developed by a board sailor iirc). It involved blowing into a tube somehow led down to the hands.
I can’t quite quite get my head round the practical details offhand, but rather than simply blowing warm (and moist) air into your gloves it used breath as means to circulate air (or even water) warmed by the body to your extremities.
Sounds a bit wacky (and almost Heath-Robinson), but users reported it transformed their life on the water.
Don’t know whether the idea could (or has been) adapted for use with ordinary dry winter clothing and gloves, but, if mere insulation is not working, it conceivably could be a heating system that doesn’t involve batteries.....
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Here’s a thread on heated gloves from a couple months ago, with some recs for gloves. Not sure what you’re aiming for as far as “affordable” goes. https://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=153471
The brand name ones I had been looking at are USD400+ 
After much research and hemming/hawing, pulled trigger on some from AliExpress. Mount Tec. USD135, including shipping(free). We’ll see how they work soon. Specs are pretty much the same as the ones that cost 3x more, and they probably all come from China regardless.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000065166255.html
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My wife suffers from cold hands because she gets very hot, the inner gloves get damp with sweat & then very cold. A reasonably priced electric glove with heat right up the fingers would be good, what’s recommended?
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@Mr.Egg, Make your own? Yeah right Kermit.
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@Mr.Egg, 
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Just don’t wear them going through TSA at the airport, would be my suggestion....
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@Gordyjh, blaze wear liners.
Many of the heated gloves only heat the palm, which is more or less useless.
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@Tom_Ski, “It is very faster” love the retro website. And Google translate gold.
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@under a new name, thanks
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| under a new name wrote: |
@Gordyjh, blaze wear liners.
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I got these for my Daughter as a result of your recommendation - and they worked nicely.
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Lose weight, eat plenty of garlic and kimchi, take 75mg of Aspirin at bedtime.
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You know it makes sense.
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I skied in -25 with pretty regular gloves and had no issues. Day after was still -25 but I decided because I'd been warm the day before I could remove one layer from my body. Body stayed pleasant, but hands were very cold. Made me realise how fine a line it is between body getting just a little cold (not enough for me to really feel cold even) and diverting blood away from extremities. So I would second the suggestions of trying extra layers first.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Has anyone tried the inflatable vests? Like the ones UK brand Exotogg make? I've seen them on motorcycling forum, wondered if they'd work for skiing/boarding.
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Poster: A snowHead
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| AL9000 wrote: |
| Do your toes become cold too? |
Usually yes, but not as much as my hand fingers.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| under a new name wrote: |
| Do you think you may have Raynaud's ? |
Not that I'm aware of
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I guess I'll give it a try to add more layers.
Usually I feel my legs a bit cold, so I'll get a base layer for legs too and add a warmer fleece as base layer for torso and see if it helps 
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I had lots of issues with cold fingers, I tried gloves from £50-£150. In the end, I bought two heated gloves. one Blazewear liner and one Alpenheat mitten.
Folks who don't suffer this will never understand and recommended black diamond, mittens, dress warm, buy X brand etc etc etc
I won't bother with the heated liner, the heated filaments are too close to the finger and you feel the wires. If you are stopped for cash, buy the £130 glove called Saviour from amazon/ebay (sometimes for £80 if you can wait 6-8wks to be shipped form HK). Buy extra batteries for £35 . If it lasts 2 seasons, you have done OK. You could buy one for £300 and it breaks post warranty.
You missed the boat, amazon warehouse occasionally discounted off season heated gloves, I got my alpine heat for £60.
Mittens over gloves... you will get used to it. Heated mittens are not thick and therefore usable
advantages of heated
- normally thinner than normal expensive gloves and therefore perfect for warmer temps while you turn up the heat for sub-zeros
- instant warmth
- you can leave on LOW at the start and turn to MID heat once temp drops to save batteries
disadvantages
- price
- need space batteries (extra cost) -you REALLY need spares. else will last half a day
- panic in th morning when you realised you forgot to charge them... no quick charge
- if you turn them on after you are already in pain from cold, its too late, not as warm as an open fire.
- the led light make you look like a space hands
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| AndreSilva wrote: |
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| Do your toes become cold too? |
Usually yes, but not as much as my hand fingers. |
Then your best bet is a thin, packable gilet to wear over your fleece midlayer; think of it as a duvet for your torso. Loads available and inexpensive, just make sure they’re long enough.
Another thing that works really well for me is a snood. It noticeably reduces the heat escaping through the top of the fleece and covers your neck area as well.
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On the question of gloves. I was looking for a suitable option for a long time and settled on the WindRider Rugged Waterproof Ski Gloves. I was satisfied with the quality, they are 100% worth the money. I found my gloves here https://gym-expert.com/best-ski-gloves/. There are different options, detailed reviews, you can at least compare. There is somehow more trust here than in company stores where they praise themselves.
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| Whitegold wrote: |
Cold blood = cold fingers.
Coverup your main arteries.
Big heat is lost from the widest bloodvessels nearest the surface of the skin.
Neck.
Head.
Lower back.
Thighs.
Wrists.
Two (or more) layers on each.
Wrist and neck gaiters make a big difference.
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You have woman hands my Lord, I trust those hands.......
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@AndreSilva, you sound too young to have a real problem, but is does happen.
My OH has had Reynaud's for years. She find Blazewear heated liners very satisfactory. Liners better than gloves as more flexible.
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