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Straw poll: I have 2 choices this year. 1. 5th Feb for a week in Morzine or 2. 2nd April for a week in Val Thorens. 2 vaccinated adults and 2 single vaccinated kids. Concerned about 4th wave in Europe hitting Feb plans as well as issues with unvaccinated kids. Both will be double jabbed by April but are we crazy to miss potentially better snow in Feb as well as avoiding English and most of French half term? Thoughts??
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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It would be April in VT for me, but I love the sun. No guarantee of good snow in Morzine in Feb really, though it will obviously be ok up at Avoriaz.
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trmacc wrote: |
Straw poll: I have 2 choices this year. 1. 5th Feb for a week in Morzine or 2. 2nd April for a week in Val Thorens. 2 vaccinated adults and 2 single vaccinated kids. Concerned about 4th wave in Europe hitting Feb plans as well as issues with unvaccinated kids. Both will be double jabbed by April but are we crazy to miss potentially better snow in Feb as well as avoiding English and most of French half term? Thoughts?? |
VT in April for me. Much bigger, higher, better ski resort whatever the stats say. Long April days are great up high. More chance of pow in Feb but Morzine is too low - it could equally be raining.
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VT in April vote from me too. Non- snow related benefits would seem to outweigh earlier week in Morzine (much as I love it) and snow is likely to be excellent in early April.
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By April, odds of being allowed to get kids double vaccinated and allowed into restaurants etc, are higher.
We have booke Feb half term and I am exceedingly nervous now as to whether we will get there. We would have booked April tbh if eldest was sitting her GCSES soon after…. We may still have done if she hadn’t been excluded for so much of the last 2yrs
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telford_mike wrote: |
It would be April in VT for me, but I love the sun. No guarantee of good snow in Morzine in Feb really, though it will obviously be ok up at Avoriaz. |
oh come on - no guarantee of good snow in February?????? Thats a load of garbage.
I’d go for April in VT purely because the school hols start on the 5th and you’d have double vaccinated kids.
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For me, definitely VT in April. French hols will have started 5 February and I can't abide lift queues. As for snow, Morzine in February or Val T in April - it's a toss up, really. Both should be OK. From the Covid point of view, it's also a bit of a toss up but perhaps April better than February. April far cheaper for accommodation and for lessons, if anyone is having them.
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@NickyJ, ahh, that was something I'd forgotten about, we have one doing Nat 5s this year, hadn't factored that in! @pam w, accommodation and ski school costs don't seem that different, I guess as April is Easter holidays. Actually been having a bit of trouble getting lessons booked for Morzine in February, had my eye on teen rider courses (4hrs on 3 days with BASS which seemed like a really good fit for us as a family) but they have no other bookings as yet so course may not run. I assume a lot more people are going to be making last minute decisions. Thanks for all the advice.
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@trmacc, it could depend on the child. I asked my about it and she is getting very panicky over everything and is adamant she doesn’t want to go anywhere- she is even getting upset about idea of going away for one night to go to a family wedding over the Easter holidays
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NickyJ wrote: |
By April, odds of being allowed to get kids double vaccinated and allowed into restaurants etc, are higher.
We have booke Feb half term and I am exceedingly nervous now as to whether we will get there. We would have booked April tbh if eldest was sitting her GCSES soon after…. We may still have done if she hadn’t been excluded for so much of the last 2yrs |
Sympathies from me. We have one doing GCSE and have booked Feb HT plus the last week in March/April. We have said the second week is optional or even if she just comes out for a few mornings. And we were just told she will have a second lot of mocks/assessments in late February
PS I’d go for Morzine personally. I’m sure you can arrange the later week if it doesn’t happen for any reason.
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I'm a teacher with a Year 11 daughter and we're going skiing first week or Easter hols. Some things are more important...
After the two years they've had, she deserves a break before the GCSE slog. Its more about quality of revision than quantity and a clear week at the end of term will do her good.
There are going to be lots of mitigations still in place for this summer's exams-reduced content, advanced notice of topics, equations in maths/physics etc. And once she's done a year of A Levels, no one will be bothered about whether she got a 6 or a 7 in GCSE Spanish....their significance is pretty overblown to be honest.
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Oh, and for the OP...VT in April is great. We've been there every year at Easter (apart from 2020 and 2021 obviously) for 8 years and it has never let us down. Sunny, plenty of snow, much cheaper, less busy...but can still get storms at that times of year which can make it exposed.
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@snowhound, this is why we gave her the choice. Personally we all desperately need a break. Work is insane and hasn’t stopped. However the anxiety the idea caused (lockdowns caused her battle with anxiety to spiral out of control and caused depression), to go against those wishes would cause more harm I believe. I just wish there wasn’t so much doubt around Feb half term in France!
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You know it makes sense.
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@snowhound, that is very reassuring to know! Here’s hoping we and our teenagers all get out there!
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@Skimum1, @snowhound, @NickyJ, thank you. Interesting to get perspective from parents with exam age children and to know not the only person with this dilemma. My 15yr old is also quite anxious about missing revision time and the extra classes put on in the Easter holidays (though I am not sure she needs them, and the advantages of a proper break are huge). On balance, I am going to book fully refundable flights (KLM) and accommodation for April but leave my February bookings in place for now. I can cancel them FOC up till 30 days before hand so can make final decision at start of Jan. Hopefully by then we will know if 4th wave is going to cause havoc and how much of a hassle being only single jabbed will be. Leaning towards VT, but another factor is our accommodation in Morzine is a half board hotel and VT would be self catering in Les Balcons - Morzine would maybe be more of a holiday for me. First world problems I know but like the rest of you feel we are all in desperate need of a break.
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accommodation and ski school costs don't seem that different, I guess as April is Easter holidays.
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Ah yes, if you're looking at UK tour operators, that will be the case. But it's low season in France, so for renting apartments, it's far cheaper. But that would mean putting yourself together a "DIY" package, which isn't everybody's cup of tea.
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VT April you're guaranteed the 2nd best type of snow "Corn"
maybe even a chance of some pow, deffo slushy bumps. Sunny longer days.
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accommodation and ski school costs don't seem that different, I guess as April is Easter holidays.
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The OP was talking about going at the start of April, not over Easter. As @pam w, says accommodation will be cheeper in April than in Febuary, but probably only a few hundred euros. If you can drive to Val Thorens then almost all the other costs are pretty much the same - lift passes, fuel, tolls, lift passes, lessons equipment hire, food etc.
Oh - I'd go Val Thorens in April rather than Morzine in Febuary, but remember the factor 50
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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accommodation will be cheeper in April than in Febuary, but probably only a few hundred euros.
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I've just looked at a 2 bedroom apartment in the complex where I had mine. Difference between French school hols and the first week in April is 600 euros (1425/820). Same order of magnitude difference between the lengths of the lift queues. If you do a DIY holiday you also have far greater choice of accommodation with sensible costs - just a price for the week, without all the "supplements" for cramming in fewer than the maximum numbers, which are always a pain with TOs.
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Mother hucker wrote: |
VT April you're guaranteed the 2nd best type of snow "Corn"
maybe even a chance of some pow, deffo slushy bumps. Sunny longer days. |
Sure I am in the minority, but I do not particularly enjoy the heat of April skiing, though I like the longer hours to ski. Few years ago in La Plagne rest of my group was delighted to be skiing in Tshirts and sun bathing at lunch time, whilst I was pining for sub zero temperatures and vin chaud. I esp detest slushy lumps which more than any other condition kills my already shonky knees! I had hoped that at the height of VT we would avoid those slushy home runs in the afternoon, but maybe I am wrong?
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If the whole covid situation is sorted by then, single jabbed teens and covid passes, our son sitting exams in Apr/May will be only a minor consideration when deciding if we try to go skiing at Easter. I know what his answer would be to "would you rather go skiing or study for two weeks?". Anyway he can take stuff with him, and the Internet is available outside the UK too. He'll also by holidaying with two teachers.
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April looking more and more likely. Do not fancy marching my 12yr old off for a LFT every day, fingers crossed she will have had 2nd vaccine by April.
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