Poster: A snowHead
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The Legislative Decree n. 40 of 28 February 2021 introduces, starting from 1 January 2022, the alcohol test on Italian ski slopes. Article 31 of the Legislative Decree briefly equates the provision to alcohol testing for drivers of motor vehicles.
Alcohol and toxicological checks on the ski slopes can be carried out by the Police, Carabinieri, Financial Police and, finally, the local Police in carrying out the surveillance and rescue service in the ski resorts.
Clash between skiers: guilt is always presumed
The rule, published in the Official Gazette on April 3, 2020, deals with safety measures in winter sports and as we said it regulates alcohol and toxicological tests for those accessing the ski slopes. Particularly:
It is forbidden to ski while intoxicated as a result of the use of alcoholic beverages and toxicological substances;
the ascertaining bodies, in compliance with personal confidentiality and without prejudice to physical integrity, may subject skiers to non-invasive quality checks or tests, even through portable devices;
when the qualitative assessments have given a positive result or when there is otherwise reason to believe that the skier is in a state of psychophysical alteration deriving from the influence of alcohol or drugs, the ascertaining bodies, also accompanying him to the nearest office or command , have the right to carry out the assessment with the tools and procedures provided for by law.
Compulsory insurance for skiing in Italy
The administrative and criminal penalties are the same as for cars, since the DO is linked to the Highway Code, therefore in the case of an ascertained state of intoxication or a psychophysical toxicological alteration, the sanction envisaged starts from the fine and can lead to arrest, depending on the severity.
The penalties are also doubled if the skier, in addition to testing positive for the alcohol test, causes an accident. |
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I guess somewhere there will be some advice on "how much is too much" or rather "yes a pint with your lunch is fine"
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Seems fair to me
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@Dave of the Marmottes, given the level of DUI SUI hardly an issue
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brianatab wrote: |
Never seen any Carabinieri on the way down from the birthday party. |
Piste patrol in Italy is done by the Guardia di Finanza, they do have powers of arrest.
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Wow. I’m not a fan of drinking whilst skiing anyway, but this will be a change for a lot of people I know!!
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I wonder what triggered that law. My only experience pf Italian skiing (other than a quiet day in Cervinia) has been in the Dolomites - and I didn't associate the area with drunken skiing. Saw nothing remotely equating to downhill of the Crazy Kanguruh.
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@Timmycb5, If you use a cup with a lid and a straw, you won't spill so much.
Technically, does that mean anybody carrying skis home after a few too many apres, can be charged?
In reality, I can only see this being an issue if there is a collision, or someone skis recklessly (likely to cause injury) in busy areas whilst under the influence.
Just wondering though, what are the repercussions with insurance in such circumstances? Maybe some of the less reputable Companies might use it as an excuse for not paying medical costs?
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@brianatab, good tip
I think a lot of insurance companies already won’t pay out if you’re under the influence whilst skiing and have an accident.
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brianatab wrote: |
Just wondering though, what are the repercussions with insurance in such circumstances? Maybe some of the less reputable Companies might use it as an excuse for not paying medical costs? |
No perhaps about it - almost all travel insurance policies have an exclusion for "under the influence of alcohol or drugs", which if you read in the implication that the Italians now require you to have 3rd party liability insurance (think that's somewhere out there but not my battle) then indeed beers and bombardinos after skiing not during might be wise.
In practice I guess on hill boozing establishments will come to informal arrangements with the fuzz over enforcement cos it's hardly going to be good for their business otherwise.
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@Dave of the Marmottes, Just thinking of the run down from La Follie Douce in VT after 5pm
Personally, it's usually such a horrible slushy run on the EOSB, that I avoid it after lunch anyway.
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Well France isn't Italy but yes those refreshed from an afternoon at one of many Folie Douches or Mooserwirts or KKs etc might as it turns out not be insured if the loss adjuster is a stickler. Arrest unlikely though unlike apparently the possibility in Italy.
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You know it makes sense.
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in fairness, I'm not sure it's a big change? Certainly insurers have always excluded events while intoxicated. Pretty sure the police have had powers to test ...?
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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under a new name wrote: |
Certainly insurers have always excluded events while intoxicated |
I've sometimes wondered about this - is it in fact possible to get insurance that doesn't have this exclusion?
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Reality check. This law is because some people (mostly not italians) get blind drunk and wreck stuff and/or hurt other people whilst on ski trips. This law gives the police and easy way to prosecute them.
They have no iterest in harassing you for having 2 litres of wine at lunch and making your way slowly and incompetently around the hill looking for coffee to try and staibilize your ski down off the hill.
Having seen a large russian pinball down a slope, nocking people all over the place. All they could do is deport the guy!
As for insurance, I guess it will be like in france 2-3€ per day, available with your lift pass.
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No way the Rozzers are catching me after 8 pints.....
Trick is to take it steady and wait until most people have cleared off. Last run of the day is the best.
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brianatab wrote: |
Klamm Franzer wrote: |
Last run of the day is the best. |
You'll absolutely love the last run of the day down into Alleghe. Just a tad over 3,300 ft vertical, just over 5km. Did it every day last year.
You'll always catch @Admin having a quick Bombardino at the top, waiting for the run to clear, before heading down. |
Well you can try to catch me after a bombardino on a clear run Best run of the day, usually.
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btw, it's not a run to take "steady" unless you want to miss the lift back to the hotel. |
Unless, of course, a full van-load of us have a bombardino at the top and the first one down gives the chap a ring to come and get us.
I mean... he'll quite rightly sulk if it's just for the one passenger, but once he's got a full load, he's quite understanding.
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