 Poster: A snowHead
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I have a pair of Atomic Hawx 120 Ultra XTD ski boots with stock liners.
My problem is that the hard edges of the plastic tounge cuts into the front of my foot where my shins meet my feet.
Colin at S4F tried cutting some of the plastic off the tounge to solve this. It did help but is far from perfect.
There is also pain involved removing my feet from the liners when the hard plastic digs in and pinches.
I was wondering it the Intuition Tour Wrap liners would solve both problems having no hard plastic tounge?
Does anyone have any helpful words of wisdom?
I was worried that the Intuitions would be too thick and crush my feet in what are snug boots?
Would any othe liners do the job without resticting ROM?
Thanks
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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FoofyNoo, Obviously talk to Colin again at S4F, but if worried about the Intuitions being too bulky have you considered Zipfits ?
Mine fit like gloves in snugish boots.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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One more vote for Zipfits. There is a number of models, with differing amounts of goop in them, to cater for a range of foot/boot volume combinations.
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Zipfits suck in a touring boot - too heavy with a big loss of ROM.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| spyderjon wrote: |
| Zipfits suck in a touring boot - too heavy with a big loss of ROM. |
What do you think of the Intuitions Jon?
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| FoofyNoo wrote: |
| spyderjon wrote: |
| Zipfits suck in a touring boot - too heavy with a big loss of ROM. |
What do you think of the Intuitions Jon? |
I've no personal experience of Intuitions (I'm the one person on the planet that's happy with the stock Dynafit liners in my Mercurys when all other owners think they're junk) but Intuition is the go-to brand for aftermarket touring liners. The difficulty is finding a good bootfitter/stockist (particularly in the UK) that has all of the touring models to try as they all have different fits, ie Pro Tour (in 3 volumes), Tour Mod & Tour Wrap etc.
I'd also recommend checking out the new Atomic 'Mimic' liner for the XTD which is now supplied in their latest boots (for the 20/21 season) which I understand is greatly improved over the original version. It should be easy to fondle a pair in the UK - Colin will have them in his stock boots - and the liners can be ordered seperately.
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Intuition Tour Wrap all the way, no other liner comes close.
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| spyderjon wrote: |
I've no personal experience of Intuitions (I'm the one person on the planet that's happy with the stock Dynafit liners in my Mercurys when all other owners think they're junk) but Intuition is the go-to brand for aftermarket touring liners. The difficulty is finding a good bootfitter/stockist (particularly in the UK) that has all of the touring models to try as they all have different fits, ie Pro Tour (in 3 volumes), Tour Mod & Tour Wrap etc.
I'd also recommend checking out the new Atomic 'Mimic' liner for the XTD which is now supplied in their latest boots (for the 20/21 season) which I understand is greatly improved over the original version. It should be easy to fondle a pair in the UK - Colin will have them in his stock boots - and the liners can be ordered seperately. |
Thanks Jon
I have now looked at the new mimic liner and though it looks like a definite improvement, the basic construction of the plastic tounge is the same as my current liner, and that's what was causing the issue with the tops of my weird feet.
I think I am going to go with the Intuition Tour Wraps [ thanks @CH20] as they will remove this problem ...... that is, if I can find a pair??
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| FoofyNoo wrote: |
| spyderjon wrote: |
I've no personal experience of Intuitions (I'm the one person on the planet that's happy with the stock Dynafit liners in my Mercurys when all other owners think they're junk) but Intuition is the go-to brand for aftermarket touring liners. The difficulty is finding a good bootfitter/stockist (particularly in the UK) that has all of the touring models to try as they all have different fits, ie Pro Tour (in 3 volumes), Tour Mod & Tour Wrap etc.
I'd also recommend checking out the new Atomic 'Mimic' liner for the XTD which is now supplied in their latest boots (for the 20/21 season) which I understand is greatly improved over the original version. It should be easy to fondle a pair in the UK - Colin will have them in his stock boots - and the liners can be ordered seperately. |
Thanks Jon
I have now looked at the new mimic liner and though it looks like a definite improvement, the basic construction of the plastic tounge is the same as my current liner, and that's what was causing the issue with the tops of my weird feet.
I think I am going to go with the Intuition Tour Wraps [ thanks @CH20] as they will remove this problem ...... that is, if I can find a pair?? |
In my experience it is pretty easy home molding intuition liners (youtube is your friend) so I wouldn't rule out buying some on the internet. Alternatively, if you have a friendly local ski shop then - even if they don't stock Intuition - they may well mold them for you for a small fee.
(Oh perhaps I should say that I've molded pro wraps rather than tour wraps)
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| jedster wrote: |
| FoofyNoo wrote: |
| spyderjon wrote: |
I've no personal experience of Intuitions (I'm the one person on the planet that's happy with the stock Dynafit liners in my Mercurys when all other owners think they're junk) but Intuition is the go-to brand for aftermarket touring liners. The difficulty is finding a good bootfitter/stockist (particularly in the UK) that has all of the touring models to try as they all have different fits, ie Pro Tour (in 3 volumes), Tour Mod & Tour Wrap etc.
I'd also recommend checking out the new Atomic 'Mimic' liner for the XTD which is now supplied in their latest boots (for the 20/21 season) which I understand is greatly improved over the original version. It should be easy to fondle a pair in the UK - Colin will have them in his stock boots - and the liners can be ordered seperately. |
Thanks Jon
I have now looked at the new mimic liner and though it looks like a definite improvement, the basic construction of the plastic tounge is the same as my current liner, and that's what was causing the issue with the tops of my weird feet.
I think I am going to go with the Intuition Tour Wraps [ thanks @CH20] as they will remove this problem ...... that is, if I can find a pair?? |
In my experience it is pretty easy home molding intuition liners (youtube is your friend) so I wouldn't rule out buying some on the internet. Alternatively, if you have a friendly local ski shop then - even if they don't stock Intuition - they may well mold them for you for a small fee.
(Oh perhaps I should say that I've molded pro wraps rather than tour wraps) |
Thanks Jedster
I have ordered a pair of Tour Wraps and, having looked at some videos, am going to give it a go myself if I can't find help.
It looks like a reasonable DIY challenge. 
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Palau or intuition make a variety of liner thicknesses, there is also (not available yet) a new touring liner from zipfit coming hopefully for next season... they acknowledge the current liners are too heave and have minimal range of motion, the new liner will be hinged properly and will be lighter than a traditional zipfit but not as light as a thermo wrap liner
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