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Why don't the French do Y-fronts?

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One of the less important, but nevertheless serious (for me) consequences of the pandemic, has been the unfortunate curtailment of the bi-annual grundy-provisioning trip to M&S in uk. The shocking state of one's pre-lockdown undergarments came to a head recently, when Mrs. Shep surreptitiously threw the lot in the poubelle... quelle horreur!

So a desperate scrabble for new shreddies has ensued, and exposed ( Shocked ) the incomprehensible fact that Y-fronts (with the all important "slash-cut") do not exist in France! Now I'm rather partial to the stretchy boxer variety myself, however my research shows the same also applies to so called briefs/slips homme, baggy boxers homme, and even the obscene tanga-slip homme, which Amazon.fr flashed before my eyes unbidden spoo .

So is the Y-front with the oh-so-practical slash-cut regarded as an anglophone perversion, or is a question of form before function? Are our continental brethren prepared to forgo its convenience for the sake of a svelte pouch, or have they just failed to invent it? Perhaps there's some anatomical difference that makes the feature redundant; although I'm sure some of the somewhat frantic fly-furkling at the adjacent urinal which I've been unable to avoid glimpsing in the péage men's room, would be explained by the lack of immediate relief proffered by easy access...

Can anyone cast any light on this cross-channel sartorial divide?
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M&S ship to France. What have you done....
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Thought this was a post by oneglove for a minute there.

Personally, I'm with the French here. I haven't worn Y-fronts since I was a child.
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Ah, that's no fun, and anyway we've had to give up buying online from the uk since we took back control, and everyone here is being charged horrendous duty on delivery rolling eyes.

I've gone to the dark side... Just have to remember to allow extra time when caught short Laughing


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I assumed the response was they preferred Nat Fronts. Insert your Le Pen is jokes here......
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@shep, pah, Welcome to Swiss life where every xmas present costs you 25chf if they forget to write gift on it Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad
But m&s and next are the good guys here, they handle all the import fees, deliver in 3 days and knock the uk VAT off too for us so it can be cheaper than buying in the UK. I shall pray for your future pants Very Happy
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There is something quite weird about Y fronts. No man of my intimate acquaintance has struggled unduly to get his willy out of a pair of briefs.
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Though I would be the first to admit that this is a small and no doubt unrepresentative sample....
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pam w wrote:
There is something quite weird about Y fronts. No man of my intimate acquaintance has struggled unduly to get his willy out of a pair of briefs.


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During the war Y fronts were reserved for fighter pilots
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@shep, I wonder whether Y-Fronts are just the sort of anachronism that only M&S still stocks. I'm not sure you'd find them anywhere else in the UK. The ones with a diagonal slash, if you'll forgive the pun, rather went out of fashion a couple of decades ago. Feel the breeze and switch to boxers Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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pam w wrote:
There is something quite weird about Y fronts. No man of my intimate acquaintance has struggled unduly to get his willy out of a pair of briefs.


Brilliant @pam w, the thread is off in a promising direction... wink
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@shep, @pam w, Laughing Laughing Laughing
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@shep, pah, Welcome to Swiss life where every xmas present costs you 25chf if they forget to write gift on it Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad
But m&s and next are the good guys here, they handle all the import fees, deliver in 3 days and knock the uk VAT off too for us so it can be cheaper than buying in the UK. I shall pray for your future pants Very Happy


Thanks, I think it was you that put us on to M&S online years ago. We got stung for €78 of duty on an 18 quid parcel, and have been very wary since. My pants will thank you for your blessings! snowHead
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PORTMAN wrote:
During the war Y fronts were reserved for fighter pilots
Interesting, strangely enough not followed by the marketing success (for the French at least) of the aviator sunglasses or the bomber jacket Toofy Grin
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Go commando, problem solved. Laughing

ps why is this thread in The Piste?
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@shep, we were supposed to come down to M at Easter - id have smuggled you some m&s specials over the border, but Mr NN thinks the covid levels are too high.
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foxtrotzulu wrote:
@shep, I wonder whether Y-Fronts are just the sort of anachronism that only M&S still stocks. I'm not sure you'd find them anywhere else in the UK. The ones with a diagonal slash, if you'll forgive the pun, rather went out of fashion a couple of decades ago. Feel the breeze and switch to boxers Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
Ah yes, I fear you may be right, it is 3.5 decades since I left uk. I have progressed from "slip" to stretchy boxer, but going to fully enclosed coupe rather than cabriolet has always been a step too far wink
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https://www.zalando.fr/ellesse-hali-3-pack-shorty-el982o000-c11.html

Fit the bill, definitely front entry rather than up and over Laughing
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Go commando, problem solved. Laughing

ps why is this thread in The Piste?
Occasionally by default in my ski-bum days, but it made the bump-runs a tad uncomfortable Shocked

For a little light relief I would suggest...
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shep wrote:
Can anyone cast any light on this cross-channel sartorial divide?

Well as you'll know the French word for Y is "i grec", perhaps the French don't like the idea of Greecey underwear..... Madeye-Smiley
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https://www.zalando.fr/ellesse-hali-3-pack-shorty-el982o000-c11.html

Fit the bill, definitely front entry rather than up and over Laughing
Lifesaver @Claude B, will order forthwith. I appreciate your contribution the comfort of my undercarriage Madeye-Smiley . Let's hope you don't encourage a rear entry debate... Confused
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The french have fashion police, Y fronts I can imagine would be a horror to them.
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@shep, Laughing Laughing I'm sure there would be something appropriate, not on zalando though.
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Alastair Pink wrote:
shep wrote:
Can anyone cast any light on this cross-channel sartorial divide?

Well as you'll know the French word for Y is "i grec", perhaps the French don't like the idea of Greecey underwear..... Madeye-Smiley
You may be on to something here, I'd be more concerned about connotations of "à la grecque" if I was the marketing guy...
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The french have fashion police, Y fronts I can imagine would be a horror to them.
I think you may have hit upon the crux of the matter Blush
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shep wrote:
foxtrotzulu wrote:
@shep, I wonder whether Y-Fronts are just the sort of anachronism that only M&S still stocks. I'm not sure you'd find them anywhere else in the UK. The ones with a diagonal slash, if you'll forgive the pun, rather went out of fashion a couple of decades ago. Feel the breeze and switch to boxers Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
Ah yes, I fear you may be right, it is 3.5 decades since I left uk. I have progressed from "slip" to stretchy boxer, but going to fully enclosed coupe rather than cabriolet has always been a step too far wink

Briefs are invaluable as a young teenager as they control a unwanted roque stiffy much better than boxers.
So I’m told.
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shep wrote:
foxtrotzulu wrote:
@shep, I wonder whether Y-Fronts are just the sort of anachronism that only M&S still stocks. I'm not sure you'd find them anywhere else in the UK. The ones with a diagonal slash, if you'll forgive the pun, rather went out of fashion a couple of decades ago. Feel the breeze and switch to boxers Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
Ah yes, I fear you may be right, it is 3.5 decades since I left uk. I have progressed from "slip" to stretchy boxer, but going to fully enclosed coupe rather than cabriolet has always been a step too far wink

Briefs are invaluable as a young teenager as they control a unwanted roque stiffy much better than boxers.
So I’m told.

As do granny-pants, allegedly Toofy Grin
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ps why is this thread in The Piste?


Yes, good point. Discussion of a gentleman's apparel for their nether regions should perhaps more appropriately be in the Après Zone. Madeye-Smiley
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Though I would be the first to admit that this is a small and no doubt unrepresentative sample....


Very Happy Very Happy
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@shep, the 1970's called and they want their pants back.
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@shep, the 1970's called and they want their pants back.

Too late, Mrs. shep binned them! wink
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ps why is this thread in The Piste?


Yes, good point. Discussion of a gentleman's apparel for their nether regions should perhaps more appropriately be in the Après Zone. Madeye-Smiley


Yup.
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I think I know the answer to the OP. Is it because the French are a cultured and civilised folk, and they don't indulge in the deviances sought out by uncouth folk?
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The Piste or Apres?

I think it should be in the Equipment forum, personally.

Myself, I have to say I made the switch from M&S cotton to these this year. Remarkably more comfortable.

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The Piste or Apres?

I think it should be in the Equipment forum, personally.

Very good. And a rather fetching red I have to say, to be worn on the outside I would suggest, when you're zip-lining the bumps Cool
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under a new name wrote:
The Piste or Apres?

I think it should be in the Equipment forum, personally.

Very good. And a rather fetching red I have to say, to be worn on the outside I would suggest, when you're zip-lining the bumps Cool


Well if it's good enough for Superman to wear his red underpants on the outside then I guess it's good enough for you too! Toofy Grin

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And WOULDN'T he look silly in Y-fronts?
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pam w wrote:
And WOULDN'T he look silly in Y-fronts?


@pam w, perhaps Superman would wear Y-Fronts if he were British...... Madeye-Smiley
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You also can't buy Opal Fruits or new Datsuns in France either, it's shocking.
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