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Ideas to Ski USA in Jan 2022

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I've got a business jolly to Orlando in Jan 2022. From UK

I'm thinking, why not get some skiing in?
A brief look at the flight possibilities makes it look as though Denver is the most likely venue to get my fix.

I've never been to Colorado before so I'm open to suggestions.

Here is the criteria:
Jan 13th to about the 19th.
I'll be on my own.
I'm only 71 and I used to be a very good skier, but I peaked about 25 years ago.
I'll be "on a budget".
I like an adventure.

I've not thought about the East Coast resorts.
Can a dream come true?
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You have lots of potential options...

Between the "other-side-of-the-road" and the potential for winter weather starting in Denver,
I'd think twice about renting a car to drive up to the mountains. There are multiple shuttle
services to take you up to the front range resorts.

Keystone is an intermediate-oriented resort, Breckenridge serves all abilities but is nicknamed
"Breckenfridge" for a good reason. Vail and Beaver Creek are large and the Back Bowls of
Vail are heaven on a powder day. These resorts are part of Epic Pass, and you will pay for the
privilege of skiing/staying there. Copper Mountain is in the front range also and pretty large/a bit
cheaper, but maybe not enough for 5-6 days skiing.

Other Colorado resorts (Steamboat, Aspen, Telluride, Crested Butte) are either a short flight or
long drive from Denver.

Also, if you want to ski multiple resorts from a single base, I would not rule out Utah. It's
possible to stay in a downtown hotel and take the bus to Alta, Snowbird, Park City, Brighton,
and Solitude. It would be a slightly longer flight from Orlando, but your ground travel is
much shorter from SLC airport than from Denver.

Your dates are around the Martin Luther King holiday weekend so there may be more crowds
than you would expect for January.

Lift tickets in the US are substantially more expensive than in Europe. You would be wise to
buy passes during the summer or early fall.
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I'd second @snowshoer and say consider salt lake city. Flight to Denver is 4 hours Vs 5 hours to salt lake city so not much difference. Salt lake city is more budget friendly. Also you have convenience of the ski bus to take you from city to ski resorts each day so no need for rentals, expensive shuttles or dealing with i70 in Colorado. iKON pass lets you ski Alta, Snowbird, Brighton, and solitude and is almost certainly going to be your cheapest option for passes (also should give you free bus rides) - you need to buy it early for best price and there is a cut off (around November I think) when they stop selling them. The base pass would be fine for you, except it usually has black out dates around mlk weekend, so maybe double check if your dates clash with that holiday. In which case you can look at alternative options (non-ski day, day pass, iKON full pass).

Ikon pass includes 7 days skiing at Zermatt (at least this season's does). So if possible you can definitely justify a Europe trip with the excuse you already have the lift pass so are skiing for "free" snowHead
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Probably for 5 days skiing it's a bit marginal on the megapasses BUT Breckenridge is $199 per day walk up rate so not really much alternative if you want to go there. Loveland would be cheaper but you would need a car.

SLC is a better shout I think for convenience and cost. Lots of Delta flights to there.
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I used to fly into Denver and drive to Winter Park when on business trips: further from there is more hassle.
The drive-to distance there is fine for jet lag, where as the further-away I70 places are... further away.

SLC is easy too. I've often stayed and used the buses, but a car liberates you from the bus schedule.
It's not uncommon for everyone else on the bus to be under 20. They are prompt but walking to the stops
and waiting in the cold may be adventurous.

I'd not think about east coast resorts either, especially not starting from there.

If it's "a dream", then I'd go about it the other way around:
list the places you want to go, then go there and pray for snow.
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@DrLawn,

It's could be do-able on a budget, particularly if you avoid the mega resorts. You could fly into Denver and ski 5 days, split between Loveland and Cooper (NB NOT Copper). If you go for Loveland you could stay in nearby Georgetown (70 minutes from Denver airport), which is a couple of horses up from a one horse town- though it does have 3 or 4 decent restaurants. It's pleasant enough. For Cooper you could stay at Leadville, though for each of the above you would need a rental car. We've skied Loveland a few times, and love it, but Cooper is still on our to-do list.

Both are low-key, non glitzy resorts and each offers cheap lift tickets.

As others have said, the lift ticket prices over there can be a killer and, even for 5 or 6 days, you would be advised to buy a season pass if you decide to go for the big resorts around Breckenridge. That would cost about $650, which might not be too bad considering you are (presumably) being part funded for your air fare.

Accommodation for a single traveller could be prohibitively expensive in the ski towns, so I would recommend looking at places like Dillon, Frisco or Silverthorne on AirBnB, where it may be possible to find a room with shared facilities in a private residence.

Good luck with your planning and research and remember to keep us posted.
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Thanks guys and a welcome to Snowheads @Snowshoer and thanks for the great welcome.
I am just dreaming at this stage, its not the most sensible thing to do, grabbing a handful of days at teh end of a conference.
But I'm not famous for being sensible.

I would have probably gone for Salt Lake City but its difficult from Orlando and very difficult back to London.
I've been to Utah for a 6 day trip before ... a long time even before the Olympics.
I liked it but had to via SFO or LAX .. can't remember.

The snow was good but the weather was only sunny one day.
Stayed in the outskirts of Park City .
So went to Deer Valley and the Canyons etc.
The last day we were there I went around to Snowbird, we had so much snow Shocked
There was an Avalanche which closed the road back down .. but thats another story.

But hey! ... I can carry on dreaming can't I?
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I would have probably gone for Salt Lake City but its difficult from Orlando and very difficult back to London.


I'm not sure how it's difficult from Orlando, there are direct flights. True that from Denver you have direct flights back to UK, but either way you are setting off one day and arriving home the next so I don't see one connection being "difficult".

Not that there's anything wrong with choosing Colorado over salt lake, especially if you've been to Utah already and want somewhere new. It's just less budget friendly (depending on how strict your budget is/isn't) and a little more hassle in transportation.

Really once you are in Orlando any resort is USA is a possibility. Some are a bit more hassle to get to, but if you go on the assumption you will lose a day getting from Orlando to wherever you want, an extra few hours or a connection doesn't make any real difference - it's not like you are losing any ski days. So @philwig suggestion is probably a good shout. Find the place you most want to go and see if you can make the budget fit.
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DrLawn, Regards SLC - not sure if they still do it, but there was a direct flight to London, if not return via Schipol and shuttle flight back to London, depending who you fly with.

Colorado as boarder2020, mentions will be less budget friendly, for most things - accommodation, lift tickets, food etc.

If you went to SLC, stay down in the suburbs, hotel rooms can be cheap - some run shuttles to the base of the Cottonwoods where you can then get the bus up. They will also pickup from the airport and run you around to other places, pick you up too. Ideally a car would be good. Restaurants will be reasonably priced too compared to resort prices and a lot more variety.

If you don't mind just skiing mainly Alta and Snowbird, purchase the Mountain Collective pass early and you'll get 5 days at the 2 for around $400, plus 50% off any other days. They don't have to be used consecutively either. Or use the other day to go somewhere else. We've used the MC pass numerous times and makes ski areas very affordable - Aspen @ $44 per day Toofy Grin

Nothing wrong with Colorado, having been numerous times but I'd personally edge to UT.

You really need to decide where you want to go, and see if it works for you.
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How about Orlando->Reno then transfer/drive to Heavenly Lake Tahoe, then Reno->San Francisco/San José and home?

I'm not sure about the flight availability, times and costs. This might work well if you fancied a few days in San Francisco, if you haven't been before. I'd say on balance, this is equivalent to going to Denver, but both have different pros/cons.

I used to go on US ski trips at the end of business/training trips, but a big factor was the extra cost re the air tickets my company had got for a particular route. Sometimes it just wasn't cost-effective, other times it was oddly cheap to re-route.
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I probably wouldnt bother.
Expensive lift pass prices & Wh00p wh00p wh00ping americans.
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DrLawn wrote:
Thanks guys and a welcome to Snowheads @Snowshoer and thanks for the great welcome.
I am just dreaming at this stage, its not the most sensible thing to do, grabbing a handful of days at teh end of a conference.
But I'm not famous for being sensible.


I beg your pardon. It IS absolutely the most sensible thing to do! We all know it makes sense.

You only live once.

GO FOR IT! Toofy Grin Toofy Grin
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I probably wouldnt bother.
Expensive lift pass prices & Wh00p wh00p wh00ping americans.


Yes, why bother skiing some of the best resorts in the world when you are already in that country anyway.

I actually prefer the N American lift pass model to the European one. I'd rather locals/seasonaires/dedicated skiers were rewarded more with cheaper season passes at the expense of tourists and day trippers. Frankly nothing in Europe comes close to the offering of iKON and epic passes. For example a tignes season pass is around $1700 Vs epic pass $1000 for unlimited skiing at multiple resorts. I'd love to do a season in Europe, but it's hard to justify as even with cost of transatlantic flights n America is so much cheaper.
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Forget whatever flights you once used, an awful lot is different now, and will be again when the OP needs to fly.

@DrLawn, since you have been to Utah and fancy Colorado, go there. As noted, your dates include the MLK holiday, which will bring higher costs and more people at areas close to cities, including Denver. No and hell no on the East Coast resorts! You mentioned adventure, so you could fly to SLC but then drive to Jackson Hole and Grand Targhee. Much more remote, two fabulous areas, probably some wildlife, affordable lodging in town. Just go anywhere while you can, man!

As of today my skiing has cost approximately $43/day using my Ikon Pass. That will decline to around $30 by end of season, and that will have been at around ten different resorts. Compares quite favorably with what I pay in the Alps. Your trip is short and thus you'll pay more, but don't believe everything you read about lift costs. Do the homework and you'll be fine.
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As of today my skiing has cost approximately $43/day using my Ikon Pass. That will decline to around $30 by end of season.


You think that's cheap? Us Brits haven't spent a penny on liftpasses this season... Shocked Sad
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I'd love to do a season in Europe, but it's hard to justify as even with cost of transatlantic flights n America is so much cheaper.


But isn't the accommodation generally a lot cheaper in Europe?

$700 difference (in lift ticket prices) over a 5 month season in the Espace Killy isn't too outrageous if it's something you'd really like to do.

Or you could try a 7.5 month ski season in Austria, with a Tyrol Snow Card. $700 (€850) for 90 ski areas, including 5 glaciers, and valid from 1 October to 15 May.
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Mr.Egg wrote:
I probably wouldnt bother.
Expensive lift pass prices & Wh00p wh00p wh00ping americans.

Have you skied in the US?
You’re doing it wrong if you buy expensive passes.
I can’t recall many ‘whooping’ Americans in the dozen or so times I’ve been on holidays there.
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I was going to suggest flying into SLC and then driving up to Park City. But I see you've been there, done that. We did it with Northwest with a bounce through Minneapolis(MSP) to/from Gatwick both ways.

Next suggestion would be Lake Tahoe. A dozen or so resorts around the lake, all within 30 minutes drive of the cheap accommodation in South Lake Tahoe. Really cheap motels on the CA side of the state line, and huge casinos on the NV side. We stayed on the cheap CA side, and then partook of the Homer Simpson style all you can eat buffets in the casinos Toofy Grin . You can fly into Reno, but last I looked Reno was expensive for connecting flights. I'd suggest flying into somewhere like Sacremento, or even SFO (or Oakland or San Jose). It's only a couple of hours drive up the hill to the first of the resorts, and flights back to the UK are direct from SFO.
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I'd love to do a season in Europe, but it's hard to justify as even with cost of transatlantic flights n America is so much cheaper.


But isn't the accommodation generally a lot cheaper in Europe?

$700 difference (in lift ticket prices) over a 5 month season in the Espace Killy isn't too outrageous if it's something you'd really like to do.

Or you could try a 7.5 month ski season in Austria, with a Tyrol Snow Card. $700 (€850) for 90 ski areas, including 5 glaciers, and valid from 1 October to 15 May.

I find accommodation in North American resorts to be dirt cheap if staying in towns a short distance from the ski hill. Think Jackson, Banff, Invermere, South Lake Tahoe, Truckee, Bozeman, Dillon/Silverthorn, Ogden, Bend, Driggs,
Vernon, Rossland etc.
I generally budget $150USD per night for a family of four including breakfast. And always get chance to spend on very cheap craft beer. Very Happy
The Tyrol card is great value though.
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Chiming in again with a couple of more thoughts....

- Although it can change from year to year, Epic (and I assume Ikon) Pass have offered a multiple day pass for
substantially less than the walkup cost (say ~$100 day/US), which is not a good deal compared to a season
pass if you are going to ski 40-50 days, but would save some $ compared to buying a full season pass for 5-6 days.
Passes for next season will go on sale ~late March, and in the past gradually increase in price through the off-season.

- while there is a bus service (Summit Stage) that serves Keystone, Copper, and Breckenridge, it has +/-'s.
You can most likely optimize getting to one or two resorts from where you stay, but others may require changing
buses.

Silverthorne is not really a town, just commercial businesses along 2-3 miles of the main road. Dillon has a small
downtown but is mostly strip malls/grocery stores/restaurants. Frisco has a decent downtown area. Especially
in the first two, staying in the wrong location might really limit access to dining/ski shops/etc if you don't have a car.

- There are direct flights from some US cities into Eagle airport (EGE), which is ~20 miles from Vail. Same for Aspen
and Steamboat, amongst others. Otherwise you'd be connecting onto a small plane out of Denver. The specific
flight schedules are often not loaded until autumn as they are renegotiated periodically. Also, Southwest, which is
a low(er) cost airline than the other major US carriers, now flies into Steamboat. Flights into the small airports
will be more expensive, may save time and ground transportation hassles, but be more impacted by weather.
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But isn't the accommodation generally a lot cheaper in Europe?

$700 difference (in lift ticket prices) over a 5 month season in the Espace Killy isn't too outrageous if it's something you'd really like to do.



No, from what I've seen accomodation is far more in Europe (granted I've not looked at everywhere, and I'm sure their are outliers in both directions). In British Columbia I can get a private room in shared house for around £350 per month. I have not seen anything in Europe close to that. like I say I would like to do a season in Europe (ideally Chamonix), but it's easily double the cost maybe even 3 or 4x as much so impossible to justify.
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I paid two weeks cheap hotel in Banff for what I paid one week s/c apartment in Andorra.
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Hi Guys, I can't write much this evening but I'm taking all the advice on board.
You've had me Skyscannering for flights.
It looks like Orlando is not as well connected as you would expect.
Its only Denver that has direct flights.
I thought about doing the places around Lake Tahoe ..
via Reno, Las Vagas, SFO ... but no easy flights
Same with SLC
And even Calgary.
I'm taking it all in, as @philwig reminds me and @Scooter in Seattle to ...
Its about Dreams & Adventures.
I've got fond memories of standing waiting outside a freezing bus stop for a very late "Looser Cruiser"
at Revelstoke. Skis in hand Madeye-Smiley
Only there for two unforgetable days.
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Denver is an easy option to navigate. You can then rent a car if you are so inclined to give you some options from there. You can either do Ikon, which will get you 5 days with the base pass to Snowmass, Aspen, Aspen Highlands, and the red headed step child of Buttermilk. But don't let the name fool you. You also get Copper, Winterpark and Steamboat on the pass.

Personally, if you have never skied CO, then make the effort and hit Aspen/Snowmass. Or, if you just want a nice small town and blue/green cruising you can get that at Steamboat.

https://www.ikonpass.com/

Epic Pass will get you Breck, Vail, Beaver Creek, Keystone. Crested Butte and Telluride are a long haul and don't recommend on a short trip.

https://www.epicpass.com/region/region-overview.aspx

Breck is an easy 3 hour drive or so depending on conditions. Nice town. Loads of blues. Easy day trip to Vail and Keystone. BC just a bit farther and good for a day.

Also, Epic Pass has partnered with Euro resorts, so it's not a waste to purchase, assuming they do the same deal next season.

You can get 3 days in the Arlberg, 5 days in Verbier, and in France, 7 days as these resorts;

What resorts are included in the 7 day ticket?
For Epic Pass holders:

LES 3 VALLÉES, FRANCE

Val Thorens
Méribel
Courchevel
Les Menuires
Saint Martin de Bellevelle
Orelle
Brides-Les-Bains
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Google flights is suggesting there are direct flights from Orlando to SLC (delta and jet blue). There are no flights to Calgary right now as the border is closed. I suspect right now is not a good indication of what next year might look like in terms of flight schedules.

I wouldn't be put off by indirect flights though, as I don't think it makes that much difference in a lot of cases. For example;
Orlando - Denver direct flight leaves at 7:52 and lands at 10.05. You are looking at 2 hours driving minimum from airport to main resorts. So realistically once you add in waiting for bags, sorting hire car/waiting around for shuttle, checking in etc. you are unlikely to ski that day. So at worst you might get 1 less day skiing, if you have to lose the last day, but even that is not guaranteed with indirect flights. Personally I would take a day less skiing to visit a resort I really wanted to over one that didn't appeal so much. For me personally I would rather do a day less to snowboard at Jackson hole or squaw, but if you just want to ski and are not that bothered Denver or SLC are more than adequate.
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The "Dr." brings up the subject of North America Eastern resorts..........

Doc......... Assuming you are coming into the USSA ex London. Nonstop to Miami, or Orlando........?

If the NWO Totalitarians are allowing international travel next year, for that matter domestic travel vis-a-vis COVID-1984 (and it IS, and they will NEVER allow it to "leave"), do not overlook the possibility of the North America East, beginning and ending with Quebec, IF......., IF conditions are acceptable. Facility north of Montreal (Tremblant) IS simply wonderful when right. A really nice piece of real estate it is, a lovely "village", great everything - skiing, skating, snowshoeing when right. Superior cuisine! Great, friendly people. For starters, it's the greater Montreal region which IS heaven. I adore Montreal. Worked on a project there for 21 months and I return from time to time simply to be THERE as Montreal is just SO lovely. IF the winter/skiing/et al. conditions are good, you WILL be beyond pleased between the greater Montreal area and Tremblant, a scant 1.5 hours north via shuttle - you do NOT need a car. Investigate Quebec! Flights to Montreal from Florida are ex Miami non stop. Ex Orlando flights typically go through either Toronto or NYC.
New England is so often sketchy regarding conditions, but you never know, miracles sometimes happen. There is a lot of unique beauty in New England. Went to school in Connecticut, later New Jersey and had the experience of skiing a number of places between New York, Vermont, New Hampshire. No complaints. No, it's not the American West, but when right (good conditions) can be nice. You know v. well, it's not ALL about the skiing...... You're not in need of some uber mountain with 50 million meters of vertical and hair-on-fire 90% black runs, remember that. Everyone is always suggesting, that's right......., THAT. Unlike Quebec, a rental car IS a must for New England. Boston, nice town, is the best launch pad.

As is to be expected the suggestions are, as ever, the usual suspect locations. I'll refrain from crashing the expertise. I'm simply reminding you that your notion of remaining east of the Mississippi is NOT a foolish notion if conditions are right, beginning and ending with Canada (Quebec).

Your budget and requisites need to be respected. So too, your time. Travel can be a pain. You have time to plan. Orlando is, the last time I checked, in the East. The Eastern region of the America's North is often overlooked. This should not be a track meet, nor something out of Ulysses. No Sturm und Drang. Rather, something new, different, casual, joyful, memorable. Again, it's not ALL about the skiing.

Most people (touristos) visiting England stray no further than 5 miles from Big Ben, if that. I mean, England is all about Londinium, right? A Brit would say they're missing so much. And they board the plane and go home and say how wonderful "England" was...............

I know of a phenomenal ski station that "only" has 400 m of vertical. A "nothing" place, wholly dismissed in the opinion of "the experts". You know who they are, so do I......... I do not reveal that jewel of a station as it's best kept untold. But it IS so insanely wonderful, that "nothing" place. The vistas alone, as well, the skiing, both the front and back side are beyond poets fancy, vastly beyond the price of admission, around 30 GBP equivalent per day, discount at 22 GBP, thank you. I ski and have skied much, much, much bigger and "better" places in my lifetime (our family have had a place in Snowmass since 1978), but have never seen anything more "neat". Sometimes "less" IS more........... Have a fun trip. Sieg Heil NWO!
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@DrLawn, If you do fly to Denver then there are two option which I don't think have been mentioned before. Firstly I believe the closest ski area to Denver is Winter Park. I've never been there myself, but I believe that there is a special ski train service that leaves Denver station direct to the Winter Park resort. However it only runs on Fri, Sat and Sun.

Secondly if you're looking to ski the Summit County area (Breckenridge, Keystone, Copper Mtn and A-Basin) then a good value base (and cheaper than Breckenridge) is the small town of Frisco. There are free ski shuttle bus services to Breckenridge and the other ski areas. There are several good value motels e.g https://www.snowshoemotel.com/ and Frisco has some convenient restaurants and at least one brewpub with some good beers.
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Investigate Quebec!


As a place to visit Quebec has lots to offer. World class skiing isn't one of them. There is a reason all the Quebecois skiers move to BC! I'm sure on its day there is fantastic skiing, the same is true of Scotland though and I wouldn't recommend someone coming to Europe going there. Much more reliable choices elsewhere. It's also not really any quicker to get to Quebec.

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I know of a phenomenal ski station that "only" has 400 m of vertical. A "nothing" place, wholly dismissed in the opinion of "the experts". You know who they are, so do I......... I do not reveal that jewel of a station as it's best kept untold.


Go on tell us this mythical place. As you say none of us will choose to go there over the western resorts anyway.
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I know of a phenomenal ski station that "only" has 400 m of vertical. A "nothing" place, wholly dismissed in the opinion of "the experts". You know who they are, so do I......... I do not reveal that jewel of a station as it's best kept untold. But it IS so insanely wonderful, that "nothing" place. The vistas alone, as well, the skiing, both the front and back side are beyond poets fancy, vastly beyond the price of admission, around 30 GBP equivalent per day, discount at 22 GBP, thank you. I ski and have skied much, much, much bigger and "better" places in my lifetime (our family have had a place in Snowmass since 1978), but have never seen anything more "neat". Sometimes "less" IS more........... Have a fun trip. Sieg Heil NWO!


You sound like such a wonderful person with absolutely no unneeded wacko personal political agenda so I'm sure we should all be clamouring to be blessed with the name of this Hill X which you will not reveal.


PS Raise doesn't even have 400m vertical wink

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Don't look at just Orlando for flights - Tampa is only an hour or so's drive west, and may add some internal options?
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@DrLawn, I used to tack a lot of skiing/hiking/running trips onto business trips to the US.

Within reason, anywhere you go (particularly after a work conference!) is going to be a good trip, so I would always focus on maximising my leisure time, and thus planning around flight schedules. If, for example, you finish late evening in Florida it might be better to go for the _longest_ flight possible so you get a decent sleep (e.g. to the West Coast somewhere) and can then ski all the next day. Assuming you sleep well on planes that is.

Similarly, when flying home, I always aimed to fly back from as far west as possible in order to maximise that night's sleep on the plane and, for me, largely eliminate jetlag.

I'd take 3 days in my third-choice location over 1 or 2 in my top choice, as the delta between locations is so marginal anyway.

Also, as @SHAP, says, sometimes it's worth driving a bit further to a different departure point, in order to reduce the distance at the destination, particularly if you'll be arriving late/tired.
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epic/ik@Scooter in Seattle,

yea, but that's fine if you are there for a while & able to ski all season.
For the normal tourist your kinda stuck of spending a lot for a lift pass or spending a lot for a lift pass, along with the extra expense of getting around.

Neither of which fall in line with 'ON A BUDGET'
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yea, but that's fine if you are there for a while & able to ski all season.


A ski resort has too options. You either charge a lot for a season pass, but relatively less for day passes (i.e. Europe model where you have to ski around 30 days to break even). Or you charge less for season passes and relatively high amounts for day passes (i.e. USA where you can break even on your season pass with 5 days skiing in some cases!). Personally I like to see a bit of loyalty shown to regular skiers and customers so I like the N American model. If you are just skiing a few days a season it does suck though.
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Hi @Toadman, Thanks for the info.
I like the sound of Steamboat, it just sound like such a great name for a town, and that's a good enough reason.

You can get 3 days in the Arlberg, 5 days in Verbier, and in France, 7 days as these resorts;
What resorts are included in the 7 day ticket?
For Epic Pass holders:
LES 3 VALLÉES, FRANCE
Val Thorens
Méribel
Courchevel
Les Menuires
Saint Martin de Bellevelle
Orelle
Brides-Les-Bains


Just to let you know ...
It would take you the full 3 days to get around the Alberg, yes it is possible to do it all in a day ...
Starting from St Anton and going to Lech and back.
But now they have added Warth to it. Which makes it a huge ski area.

Verbier is mahusive too, a week is not enough.
As for Les 3 Vallees ...
I go to Val Thorens every April with these Snowhead guys.
If the weather is good it is a truly massive area.
We spend most days mooching around Val Thorens area with a trip across to Orelle if its sunny.
If we get bored and the connections are open we go over the the Meribelle side and then to Couchavel, have lunch and get back.
In late April for the last few years the snow over that side has not been good enough though.
We get our lift ticket free along with the hotel booking which is a great help.
Thanks for the info that id flying into this thread.
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@arcsinice, .. I've got to sit down and have a good read of your thread.
I've never considered the eastern parts of North America .. but perhaps I should .. I'l study your response and think about it.
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@Alastair Pink,
Thanks for your ideas on Frisco and Snowshoe Motel ...

I'm wondering apart from the lift tickets ... I'll need to rent skis at least ... I will manange to bring my boots and Mo-Jo's along.
Is it going t be outragously expensive?
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@snowdave,
I'm looking at the flight times.. It seems the Denever is the best option The flight from Orlando leaves 9:30am gets to Denver 11:34am
Flying back Arrival from Denver is 2hours 20mins before the return flight leaves for Heathrow. (Thats a bit squeaky isn't it?)
Its Frontier Airlines .. I'll have to see how punctual they are.
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@SHAP, Thats an Idea... Tampa..
The flight to Tampa and Drive to Orlando would guarantee catching the flight home. Madeye-Smiley
But its getting up pretty early Crying or Very sad
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Have you already bought tix for Orlando? If not might be cheaper to just buy a leg back from Denver - BA is (or was) direct but Icelandair (short 1hr co-ordinated change in Rejkavik) or Lufthansa (Frankfurt?) did short changes back
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I'd take 3 days in my third-choice location over 1 or 2 in my top choice, as the delta between locations is so marginal anyway.[/quote]

Delta? Puzzled What's that mean?
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