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Ideas for a doable ski trip with a baby

 Poster: A snowHead
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We did a summer gite holiday in Brittany with friends - our son was about 10 months old, their daughter 2. She slept dutifully through the night, our son soon learnt to tip over his travel cot by throwing himself at the side and woke regularly at 5 - 5.30 am (as he did at home, to be fair). We had to drive him round in his car seat to get him to sleep at night and then take him out in the mornings so he wouldn't wake the others. Restful, it wasn't.
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@pam w, my point exactly!
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@skimastaaah, you had a couple too many?
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@pam w, Midget I got so used to being in a travel cot when I used to cart him around for work that we put him in one at home instead of the wooden one as he slept best in it!
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Seriously, best to plan everything around your baby and your other half - shopping (major town nearby?), Swimming (thermal baths nearby?). Happy wife, happy life.


Depressed hubby. Normal life? Puzzled Toofy Grin
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Depends on you, child and husband.

Budget, ideas about childcare, ideas about skiing, ideas about what to do when not skiing.

There is no one size situation.

All day childcare + nanny / all day childcare- a bit brutal at this age- not cheap.

Grandparents- tricky - depends on them.

Large group- tricky

Group plus half parents on slope half not

Differnt companies
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I am by no means a rampant feminist but suggestions that "the wife" will be happy provided there's shopping and a spa do get on my tits.
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pam w wrote:
I am by no means a rampant feminist but suggestions that "the wife" will be happy provided there's shopping and a spa do get on my tits.


I could understand that if that was what I had actually written.

There aren't many things you can do in a ski resort if you are not skiing, those were just two suggestions. My kids loved water when they were children, after skiing it was great to have family time in the thermal baths. I wasn't suggesting they were the only things, or that they were only for females just that they may make him or her happier. If I (as a man) were restricted to a hotel room with a child it would probably drive me and the child up the wall, it'd be like going back into lockdown while on holiday. I'd at least want to get down the shops and see all the latest ski gear, let the child have a look around, have a coffee at a bar and get some family time at the baths at the end of the day. Maybe if there is a town nearby they could have somewhere for the kids to play or an attraction or something. A friend of mine has a girlfriend who doesn't ski but she is happy to come along on ski weekends as long as she has a Netflix connection, I daresay it could be the same for a male non-skier who is interested in football etc.

Of course she/he could still be unhappy after all this and the whole thing could still get on his/her tits but it's probably worth a try. Happy husband, happy life.
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@pam w,
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I am by no means a rampant feminist but suggestions that "the wife" will be happy provided there's shopping and a spa do get on my tits.


Too right, fancy him forgetting the nail salon and parasol stall. Little Angel
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@DB,
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There aren't many things you can do in a ski resort if you are not skiing,


Snow shoeing, dog sled rides, icy lake diving, climbing walls, ice driving, paragliding, ice skating, sledging, mountain photography, ice climbing (frozen waterfalls), mountain museums, bungee jumping and organised bar crawls.
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PeakyB wrote:
@DB,
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There aren't many things you can do in a ski resort if you are not skiing,


Snow shoeing, dog sled rides, icy lake diving, climbing walls, ice driving, paragliding, ice skating, sledging, mountain photography, ice climbing (frozen waterfalls), mountain museums, bungee jumping and organised bar crawls.


Yes but what about things for the adults to do too? wink
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
Doing nothing ranks pretty highly on my list of ‘activities’
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I wouldn't necessarily "forget it for a few years". If you love the mountain environment and love skiing you can still get a fix, just with a change in dynamics and emphasis.

We did a couple of trips with grandparents (both skiers to a point). One in the first winter after our first child was born (Warth-Schröcken for 4/5 days) and one to Les Menuires (when the second one was ~1.5 years). And I have good memories of both trips. We then started going just by ourselves. We have always driven, DIYed, not used creche. It took us a while to identify that with little ones you don't need to/want to go the big resorts. In hindsight I would have explored more smaller resorts in those early years. We did do La Norma and Les Contamines though. As you say budget wise versus needs, it makes sense.

One of the other things is having to play second fiddle a little bit to the needs of the child(ren). It took me (less so my wife) a long time to get the hang of this and be less selfish. If you really want a full on ski holiday best do it separately! I'm quite an old dad which you would have thought would make it easier but for me it was difficult. It doesn't actually mean it's less fun just a bit different.

I've heard Austria is better for children but we only did the Warth-Schröcken one, the rest of the time it's been France. For us driving, self catering, accommodation on the slopes works really well - and France is well geared up for that. And there are reasons beyond the kids why we prefer that. It's not something many do but we taught the kids to ski and board ourselves (mostly my wife).

One thing we were conscious of, especially when they were very young was to stay at lower stations. One, it often lessons the drive, and certainly the windy mountain part but also the thinking was the baby/child would be more confortable at 1300 than 1950+. I know when I stayed at Val T I didn't sleep well. Small thing but eh oh. Calpol can help!

One other reason to go on winter holidays pre school going years is you can go off season when it is cheap and quiet!


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@DB, it's OK, I wasn't entirely serious, but there is a LOT of discussion of this kind on SHs. wink And some women ARE that daft. I cherish a memory of being in the Tourist Office in Les Saisies. The woman on duty spoke passable, but far from fluent English. Two English women of a certain age marched in and without preamble (such as "Bonjour....") asked "Where's the nail bar?" Completely perplexed the woman looked at me (we had been talking in my French, which was not much worse than her English and I like to practice). I translated and she had to confess there wasn't one nearer than Albertville. I had visions of the husbands of those daft women having jollied them along with tales of all the "pampering" they could enjoy when the men were out skiing. And their not having had the wit to look for themselves at the resort website which listed all the available facilities. Laughing rolling eyes Laughing

I guess that any woman who lets their husbands arrange a holiday without taking an intelligent interest (or a man who just went along without thought with their wife's ideas) deserves what they get.
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@pam w,

No worries we are all (thankfully) different and have different needs. Some parents / grandparents are amazing and can also keep a baby/babies entertained all day in one room with very few props. If I tried that they'd be sulking, tears, screaming, "where's mommy", "I don't want to", feet stamping, toys being thrown out of the pram etc. …. and that's just me the kids would probably be worse.

Had to laugh when I read the first post of this thread though, thought you would have been on it by now.
https://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?p=4717564&highlight=spa#4717564
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In Austria i dont think that there is so famous this service as in France. You could find it but i have no idea how must it will cost
however i can suggest to choose a family hotel
there are many in Austria from kinderhotels.com or familotel.com
i dont know how many do you want to spend, but e.g. the Zauchenseehof in Zauchensee is fantastic...
ski in ski out, all incl, and also i think there is baby club etc
i think Saalbach hat also a couple of these hotels, and Sefaus also...but the question is if you want to spend so much or not
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My tip re your partner is to Just Ask Them. Don't make assumptions: ask what they would really like to do. When you're keen on a particular sort of holiday - whether it be skiing, sailing, sightseeing, or lazing around a villa and pool - it's very easy to apply unconscious pressure to agree. Asking your partner for an honest answer is an obvious thing to do, but it's surprising how often people don't bother (I am as guilty of this as anyone).
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@Layne, thanks for the advice - I'm an oldie dad too...48! Good advice regarding the altitude - a smallish, Austrian resort would probably fit the bill then, otherwise I'm thinking somwhere like Les Gets might be a safer option for a first-timer (and a bit of a shorter drive).

@turms2, well I'd definitely like to go to Zauchensee at some point, so will look into that. In the Amade region I've skied a couple of weeks at Schladming - perhaps somewhere like Rohrmoos would be a good base; practically on the slopes, some nice long runs in the area and not all that far from the main village/town.
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right...Rohrmoos hat also some Hotels near the slopes....but i dont know about the facilities...Zauchenseehof eg is a Kinderhotel
However i noticed the take care kids from 1 y old
you could see eg
https://www.kinderhotel-waldhof.at/
or
https://www.alpina-zillertal.at/
they assummed that they have baby care programm
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