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Backpack for boot + clothing + gear

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Hi Guys.

I'm looking for a backpack to carry my boot + clothing(ski pants/midlayer/jacket) + gloves + helmet.
Not so difficult to find, but I would like one that I could use as hand luggage. I know that most of the backpacks won't fit in the maximum size capacite for hand luggage, but as long as they are not hard case, I think I can squeeze them if it is not too full.

I'm interested in the Dakine Boot locker 70L: https://www.dakine.com/collections/ski-travel-bags/products/boot-locker-dlx-70l?variant=29226112319568



Does anyone have this model or something similar ? If so, do you think it would be possible to use as hand luggage for European flights ?

They have two other variants:
75L, maybe too big: https://www.dakine.com/collections/ski-travel-bags/products/boot-pack-dlx-75l
50L, maybe too small to fit clothing: https://www.dakine.com/collections/ski-travel-bags/products/boot-pack-50l
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The theoretical maximum capacity of a bag that fits the BA hand carry allowance (64x45x25cm) is 63L, assuming infinitely thin material. To my knowledge, no major airline in Europe (or the US) allows larger bags than BA, and many are smaller.

I have a BA-max roller bag which IIRC has a 54L capacity (allowing for wheels, handles, frame etc.) and looks very large. I can easily travel for 10 days with it, and even did a 1 week work trip with ski boots in it as well as work kit.

A 75L bag is definitely going to breach the size limits.
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Checkout Douchebags - have been using an older version - It is the classic Hugger (35l) the new 30L do not fit ski boots well at least larger boots!
https://www.theski-shop.co.uk/7511/products/douchebag-the-hugger-35l-ski-boot-bag.aspx

the douchebag fits my ski boots inside and everything I need for 2/3 days skiing if I pack it properly and also pack items inside the boots Very Happy Its hand luggage size compliant and then I carry the helmet in my hand.

Also worth checking any of these out:
https://www.skibartlett.com/ski-equipment-c1/ski-luggage-backpacks-c10/ski-boot-bags-c39/atomic-rs-45l-pack-red-bright-red-p2848
https://www.skibartlett.com/ski-race-c6/race-luggage-backpacks-c94/race-ski-boot-bags-c97/lange-backpack-bootbag-p17284
https://www.skibartlett.com/ski-race-c6/race-luggage-backpacks-c94/race-ski-boot-bags-c97/tecnica-firebird-race-bag-70l-p16853
https://www.salomon.com/en-gb/shop-emea/product/extend-go-to-snow-gearbag.html#color=19714

It all depends on how many additional pieces of clothes you plan to take with you - if youre happy staying in the same shoes, jeans and jumper you travelled in and just need to change your underwear / t shirts and socks you dont need much space at all!

snowdave wrote:
A 75L bag is definitely going to breach the size limits.


it is only going to breach the limits if packed to the brim - backpacks unlike rollers / hard suitcases can compress down.

My experience is that you are far more likely going to be pulled to have your roller bag checked than a backpack, BA are very generous with the weight allowance while other airlines are not.


Douchebag with 29.5mondo boots inside and space to spare above for ski pants, thermals, change of clothes etc.



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@AndreSilva, I have that bag and there is no way I would think of taking it on as hand luggage. I'm not sure it would fit overhead bins, especially on busy flights where you would be "that guy rolling eyes ". I only use mine if I'm driving.

snowdave wrote:
The theoretical maximum capacity of a bag that fits the BA hand carry allowance (64x45x25cm) is 63L


I think it's 56 x 45 x 25 = 63L and does that mean I win a prize?

I wish airlines would get strict enforcing this.
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You want something as close as possible to the airline dimensions, e.g. easyjet 56x45x25. The Douche above appears more of that shape that a dakine ones which aren't optimised for

Do you defo need backpack style?
I use a normal cabin bag, and pack it like extremerob says above and carry my helmet (glasses wearer so take visor helmet with me). if you go premium/speedy board with a small carry on bag in addition, that easy covers some change of clothes for the evening, ipad etc.
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I use Snokart boot Airliners for my boots (with things stuffed inside them), which then fit nicely into a carry on bag - I usually go for a 'cabinmax' branded bag (backpack style - just ordered my second, 1st died after 4 years and a LOT of flights), as they're cheap and durable enough for my purposes, and generally a good amount of capacity within allowed dimensions.

https://www.snokart.com/products/boot-airliner?variant=842574107

Edit: (new) skiboots inside my new cabinmax backpack. Airliners are buried in a box somewhere but take up no room. Plenty of space left in this bag (though not sure how clear that is in the photo). A helmet did (just) fit in my old bag, but haven't got one at the minute to demo. I preferred to clip it to the outside anyway though.



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Pruman wrote:
@AndreSilva, I have that bag and there is no way I would think of taking it on as hand luggage. I'm not sure it would fit overhead bins, especially on busy flights where you would be "that guy rolling eyes ". I only use mine if I'm driving.

snowdave wrote:
The theoretical maximum capacity of a bag that fits the BA hand carry allowance (64x45x25cm) is 63L


I think it's 56 x 45 x 25 = 63L and does that mean I win a prize?

I wish airlines would get strict enforcing this.


Yes, and for the next question, do I blame my maths, my reading, or my typing?!

The only time I've seen BA try and enforce this was when I had a 75L Golite rucsac (no frame or structure at all) with 2 down jackets in it. I was pulled out of the queue by the GVA desk staff, who were very surprised by the easy with which it fitted into the sizer.

However, unless it's with fluffy stuff like down jackets, then buying a 75L backpack and putting <50L of stuff in it risks stuff moving around, making it an awkward carry, and possibly not fitting the sizer if the boots are now lying the wrong way round.
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Quote:

I wish airlines would get strict enforcing this.

Yes, It amazes me how some people try to get oversized bags onto the plane.

I thought the size of carry on bags was determined by the aircraft not the airline ie will it actually fit. There are also design constraints on the strength of the overhead locker though clearly some airlines do want the weight reduced for ecconomic reasons.

Personnaly I don't really like carry on luggage and woud prefer it if everything went in the hold.
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Pruman wrote:
@AndreSilva, I have that bag and there is no way I would think of taking it on as hand luggage. I'm not sure it would fit overhead bins, especially on busy flights where you would be "that guy rolling eyes ". I only use mine if I'm driving.

That sucks, I really liked the fact that the boots stay separated from the rest, as usually I ski on the day I'm going back, so the wet boots don't touch the clothes Confused
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johnE wrote:
... I thought the size of carry on bags was determined by the aircraft not the airline ie will it actually fit...
Personnaly I don't really like carry on luggage and woud prefer it if everything went in the hold.
No, that's not how it works. It doesn't even work that way for hold baggage!

Many people who fly a lot (like me) prefer to keep hard-to-replace gear in hand baggage, even if carrying boards in the hold.
Boards can be rented, boots/ my bindings are often not available. This is more than twice as important if your trip has
more than one segment. I do not get in anyone's way.

I have a Mammut 50L bag which I use for this. Other brands exist and are likely just as good; they're always changing the
details. I've used this one extensively for snowboard and surf trips around the world on a variety of airlines, all without any hassle.
I do check their dimensions / weight rules. There are minor dimension differences especially with some "budget" airlines, but this
one can be squeezed into all. I would not go bigger.

I'm not a huge fan of dedicated "ski" gear, although Dakine stuff is generally good (and they have a 20% sale in the US)
and I've used their photo bags for a long time.

For snowboarding the Mammut takes my boots plus other breakable/ expensive stuff without a problem.
The key feature for me is that the bag needs to look like a bag (not a back-pack),
but it should also have backpack straps as when fully loaded I need to distribute the weight. The Mammut bag has a
separate section for dirty knickers, but not for wet boots, for which you'd want a tesco carrier bag or two.
There are compression straps and also internal straps so the thing works well if not fully loaded and
the boots don't move around. Mine came with a separate laptop carrier which is handy for more discretely carrying
a machine to the beach. I don't like too many "features" in bags, but this has matching pockets at each end
which actually work well for stuff you need to access when you're schlepping around airports and hire cars.

Oh yeah, at half the weight of plastic, Carbon Fibre boots rule if you're taking them in hand baggage.

Knickers aside I don't really carry clothing in my carry on: that can be borrowed or rented, so I just stuff that
in my board bag for snowboarding trips. For ordinary trips I don't have the boots, so clothing goes in here just fine.
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Quote:

usually I ski on the day I'm going back, so the wet boots don't touch the clothes


Airliners - I really cannot recommend them enough. Separate your boots, keep everything else dry, and take up very little room (and handy to carry boots around in general outside of bags). Just saw they are on sale for less than £20 on absolute snow: https://www.absolute-snow.co.uk/V/SnoKart_Boot_AirLiner_SkiSnowboard_Boot_Bag_Grey-(32514)
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i think rob@rar uses and likes this (or a similar model)

https://www.salomon.com/en-gb/shop-emea/product/extend-go-to-snow-gearbag.html#color=19714
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This has been superb

https://media.ekosport.fr/INTERSHOP/static/WFS/EKO-FR-Site/-/EKO/fr_FR/Product/600/redster_boot_backpack_AL5001008_02.jpg

Its great for hand baggage as the top part is a fold-out stetchy net to hold the helmet, so it doesn't use up valuable space inside (no problems at all with security or flights on multiple trips). Ski boots can be clipped to the side also if you want to use the bag to and from the slopes.
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I got a bag made by the local sail maker to maximize BA and easy jet (old policy) cabin baggage. It was big! Biggest problem it had no strength to hold its shape but if you persevered you could reinforce it with something. I now just use a antler pull along maxed to 56x45x25cm.
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We've some older versions of this https://www.stoeckli.ch/usen/shop/bags/wrt-line-ski-boot-back-pack-70l that have worked well, unsure of sizing with respect to carry on though.
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I use a North Face medium Duffel as a carry-on with boots, etc in it. Max it out and it's too big for carry-on, but I think I'd need to take multiple changes of clothes/day to actually fill it, so it always comes out well under and I'd have no trouble squidging it in to one of those bag size check frames if I was ever asked. If you're worried and a light packer you'd probably get away with a small duffel.

I usually fly BA, either burning work air miles or OptionTown vouchers, and have never had to actually carry the duffel on to plane. My skis in a Sportube go as my checked bag and every time if I haven't been asked "Would you like to check you carry-on bag for free?" I've just said "Can I check my carry-on bag too, I've got to wait for the skis to come around the carousel anyway and it frees up space in the cabin for other passengers?". Every time that's had a cheery "No problem." response, 2 bags checked in to the hold and just my little day pack ("...and a laptop bag/handbag") to walk around the airport with.
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I use a 50l RAB kit bag https://www.cotswoldoutdoor.com/p/rab-kit-bag-ii-50l-E2314458.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=CWO-UK-PERF-ONG-PR-TXT-NB-DSA-catch_all-BOFU&gclid=Cj0KCQiA2af-BRDzARIsAIVQUOcbGBlYaeBvJb8A8Hk54muKDom2LDBKZByxN7Ice56H55qhbPTiP68aAvm8EALw_wcB


It is slightly too long but since it will compress it will be fine.
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Also there is a samsonite wheeled trolley I used in the =past that can take 2 boots and it is 20cm wide but expandable to 25cm. The 2 wheeled can take boots but the 4 wheel doesn't

https://www.goplaces.co.uk/products/samsonite-spark-sng-55cm-2-wheel-expandable-cabin-case?utm_source=googleshopping&utm_medium=paid&utm_campaign=shopping+feed+kelkoo&variant=43094968661&sfdr_ptcid=10672_100_95742639&sfdr_hash=3569d4cf204a45bd934d569492697545&gclid=Cj0KCQiA2af-BRDzARIsAIVQUOcX13zgqO0qzn4Ig6bNdqDFPHyMRzN2a7l81Yu6WG_I6ctgLZqAvtwaAjfoEALw_wcB
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AndreSilva wrote:
usually I ski on the day I'm going back, so the wet boots don't touch the clothes Confused


Those airliner things look very snazzy but, umm, you could always just use a couple of plastic bags. Puzzled

If I'm going for a weekend I tend to use my Thule ski boot bag (similar to one linked below, but different design). There's a separate compartment for ski boots, but to maximise packing I tend to have stuff in there. On the way back that's usually only shovel, probe and salopettes...stuff I don't mind getting wet (but to be honest, on the way back I don't mind most of it getting wet - I don't need my dirty kit to stay dry). I can fit enough kit for 2-3 days in there, although if it's going in hand luggage then I normally end up a bit squeezed.

https://www.thule.com/en-gb/sport-travel-bags-and-cases/ski-snowboard-bags/thule-roundtrip-boot-backpack-45l-_-3204355
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ChrisWo wrote:
AndreSilva wrote:
usually I ski on the day I'm going back, so the wet boots don't touch the clothes Confused


...on the way back I don't mind most of it getting wet - I don't need my dirty kit to stay dry


That's the approach I've always taken too. Boots off, knock off the loose snow, put on last clean change of clothes, then a wipe with a dirty base layer to get any water off before they go in the bag with all the dirty clothes that will be going straight in the washing machine when I get home...usually about 10min before the transfer bus is due to pick me up.
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get a "start bag" which is the type of rucksack that people who race use to take to races. Boots, helmet, ski gear all in nicey. Acually you can get boots and ski gear and a weeks clothes in if you are careful. And they fit (at least they used ) to fit esayjet's cabin bag size exactly.

e.g.
https://skiracing.co.uk/product/lange-racing-boot-backpack/
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Very interesting - I'm looking for something similar myself.

I'm looking for something which wont be too obtrusive on my back for a days skiing. Pretty much empty apart from the shoes I walked to the lift in and a layer or two.

Are the above suggestions mainly used for schlepping through the airport..or does anyone use them as I intend, ie. to carry boots to the lift and back and wear the backpack for the day on the slopes..?

Cheers
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For me the North Face duffel's just for schlepping through the airport (and the 8 mile walk from the terminal to the transfer bus at Geneva) and to/from the hotel in resort. I then have a small 10/15L day pack that for flying can either be the bag I actually carry on (if check-in have let me check the duffel for free) or easilly shoved inside the duffel if not. Once checked in it's the day pack that actually goes out on the mountain (Usually with my passport and Kindle in it for the first day or two, till I realise I've forgotten to take them out. Again.).

That pack wouldn't be bigenough to fit ski boots to walk to the lifts though, so may not be the combo for you.
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