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Crit'Air Certificate Advice

 Poster: A snowHead
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Greetings all,

As per my other thread, planning to drive down to Megéve in January. The plan is to drive down in the Surf - as it is a 4x4 and lives on all-terrain M&S tyres anyway (I also have a set of 4 chains for it).

Have previously driven this down to Bulgaria (Bansko) back in 2017.





So gratuitous photos out of the way - my concern is around the Crit'Air Certificate - as the Surf is a 1992, and diesel - it is not eligible for a certificate (I went onto the website and tried to order one, computer says "No"). Am I likely to run into any issues driving down? Are we likely to be stopped for not having one? I know that the main areas are around Paris and Grenoble (where we will not be going anyway) but I am a bit concerned about the "pop-up" zones that can be declared at short notice. Are we likely to get caught out by any of these?

TIA
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Most of the french don't have them although I do. Take a risk ...... Given some of the old crap the french drive I'm surprised there isn't a classification, albeit the lowest.
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That was my thoughts - I thought there might be a classification of "at least I tried" rather than just "Non!"
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YetiManMark wrote:


So gratuitous photos out of the way - my concern is around the Crit'Air Certificate - as the Surf is a 1992, and diesel - it is not eligible for a certificate


You'll be ok in 2022 as it will be classed as a classic car in France.

As for 2021. There are some areas such as Grenoble where it is simply not allowed to take such a vehicle on any day. You'll have to research any restrictions on your route.
That said, I'm in the same situation as you with a 1999 vehicle and I drive it in Grenoble - we're not all Greta Thunberg able to afford a Tesla. If I were to be stopped by the police I might be fined.
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We got one for the Golf, it costs under a fiver and takes about 5 minutes online. The fine for not having one in one of the controlled areas is about €175 IIRC... Think it lasts 3 years?

Theres a quick guide to what you need here...

and the link to the french gov site here Use their english language version (top right) DON'T let your browser translate it...
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Richard_Sideways wrote:
We got one for the Golf, it costs under a fiver and takes about 5 minutes online. The fine for not having one in one of the controlled areas is about €175 IIRC... Think it lasts 3 years?

Theres a quick guide to what you need here...

and the link to the french gov site here Use their english language version (top right) DON'T let your browser translate it...



Wwwwwoooosh !!!

You know what that sound is Richard? That's the sound of an a thread going completely over your head.
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IME, albeit winter 18/19, with a 51 plate Nissan: unless you really want to you can simply not drive into the cities with permanent restrictions. The ‘pop up’ limits were speed restrictions on the autoroute (with roadside speed traps) rather than limits on which vehicles can use the road.
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After all it is free Go on u know u want to!
(And therefore don’t need one)
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@davidof, Meh, A gift basket of indifferent shrugs has been dispatched to your location...
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But the A480 past Grenoble leading to many resorts is covered by Crit'Air and I have seen signs on it banning some categories of vehicles.
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Richard_Sideways wrote:
@davidof, Meh, A gift basket of indifferent shrugs has been dispatched to your location...


can you add some French pouting ?
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The official French Website is easy to deal with, delivery of sticker to UK can be a little long winded.
First trip, I had the email receipt for the trip.
Positioning of sticker is fussy.

Lasts a year, and was about 6euro on the hybrid.

Just imagine the shock if anything in the UK got done for less than £10, much less a fiver.
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Jameswp wrote:
Lasts a year.

It doesn't just last a year, the only reason to replace it would be if it could no longer be read.
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rjs wrote:
Jameswp wrote:
Lasts a year.

It doesn't just last a year, the only reason to replace it would be if it could no longer be read.


My bad, explains why the sticker should be on the outside of the windscreen then!

I changed cars between trips, probably why I had the year in mind.
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Richard_Sideways wrote:
We got one for the Golf, it costs under a fiver and takes about 5 minutes online. The fine for not having one in one of the controlled areas is about €175 IIRC... Think it lasts 3 years?

Theres a quick guide to what you need here...

and the link to the french gov site here Use their english language version (top right) DON'T let your browser translate it...


Thanks, but I cannot get one as the vehicle is too old, the question was more - "What now?" and what issues am I likely to encounter?
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YetiManMark wrote:
what issues am I likely to encounter?

What route are you planning to use ? There might be a problem if Geneva city imposed restrictions again and you had driven through the Jura.
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I have only seen the restrictions in place around Grenoble once I think and the police were stopping cars coming out of the toll gates where the road changes from autoroute to Grenoble ring road. They only seem to go for the easy meat in the slow, right hand, lanes so get yourself a toll doofer so that you can go through the non-stop gates on the left Smile
Presumably they will develop a way of doing it with ANPR cameras soon anyway ? So you will just have to cough up when the bill comes Sad
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YetiManMark wrote:


Thanks, but I cannot get one as the vehicle is too old, the question was more - "What now?" and what issues am I likely to encounter?


Likely? Zero.

Remotely possible?
1. you are in a zone where your vehicle is banned permanently - you are seen by one of the rare police controls and you get fined or a warning
2. you are on a pollution day - there are quite a few in the winter, you are in a zone concerned, you are seen by one of the rare police controls and get fined

Your problem is knowing where zones 1 and 2 actually are (ZFE, ZPA etc), what the details are and knowing when they are operating. Often the first I know about (2) is when I'm already on the auto-route and there is an overhead sign showing.

It is a scam basically, a protection racket.
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