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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@Poogle, only until 19 December
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| radar wrote: |
| @Poogle, only until 19 December |
Many thanks for that correction. So from what I understand, Austria is bringing in restrictions over Christmas and New Year, to stop the festive transmissions of the virus? And all this will be reviewed at some point it seems.
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| Poogle wrote: |
| radar wrote: |
| @Poogle, only until 19 December |
Many thanks for that correction. So from what I understand, Austria is bringing in restrictions over Christmas and New Year, to stop the festive transmissions of the virus? And all this will be reviewed at some point it seems. |
Sounds about right. I'm due out there on the 9th January! So I can only hope the plans for after is to go back to no quarantine, otherwise my trip is being cancelled!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@Poogle, my understanding is that the new quarantine requirement begins on Monday 7th December. Only Der Standard has reported 19th December as the start date, all other Austrian news sources report 7th December. In any case, tourism is not allowed before at 10th January.
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@Poogle,
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thought I would do a summary on the current status, think I've got it all
Lifts open 24 December
Hotels / accommodation / restaurants open 7 January
Entry / re-entry requirements from 19 December to 10 January , if arriving from a country with a 14 day incident rate of more than 100 positive testes per 100,000, then you must isolate for 10 days you can opt to take a paid for test after 5 days should it be negative you are free to roam
All of Austrias neighbours are above the minimum infection rate, the UK is currently 348 (at 2 Dec), you can check the infection rate at https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea
Curfew is extended until 6 January applies between 8pm to 6am |
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@queenie pretty please, orf and Die Presse are also saying 19 ?
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A couple of weeks ago, we were discussing the announcement of Austria's mass testing plan. For anyone interested in how it is working, today I received the invitation. Despite the health minister announcing that it would all be done via online registration and QR codes, I have received two A4 paper forms (and no web link/QR stuff, so in Tirol at least, that info was bobbins) to be filled in and taken to the test centre (unspecified). I have then also received a local mail drop (to the householder) stating that people in my street should report to a building in the village in a 3hr window on Sunday morning (building known as X, but no address  I guess they figure that everyone would know it because they've all lived here since the dawn of time) with their handful of paperwork. All positive rapid antigen tests are to be referred for a PCR test in the city. The mass test is for asymptomatic cases only, if you have symptoms you are supposed to call the hotline and get a PCR test.
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@radar, the government's own website has not yet been updated, but most news sources are reporting from 7th December which is when the measures announced yesterday will start. In any case, there is no tourism allowed before 10th January.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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@Scarlet, friends here have received a letter with a QR code. I assume I will be excluded.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| queenie pretty please wrote: |
| @Poogle, my understanding is that the new quarantine requirement begins on Monday 7th December. Only Der Standard has reported 19th December as the start date, all other Austrian news sources report 7th December. In any case, tourism is not allowed before at 10th January. |
Any idea what they'd do to people arriving on 9th January? As in, if we got there 9th and then started our skiing on the 10th would it be likely to cause problems? I'm not sure what the quarantine system has been like in Austria. Logic dictates that they'd put you in quarantine and then on the 10th you'd just be subject to the same restrictions as anyone else so if they get rid of quarantine you'd be free to enjoy yourself.
I suppose we'll get more clarity nearer to the time. Good job I can cancel the accomodation up to 1 day before the trip!
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@Pastorius, we don't yet know if the quarantine restrictions will continue from 10th January, it's very dependent on infection rates. I expect there will be an announcement the week before. My gut feeling is that the quarantine restrictions will remain, but I have nothing to substantiate that.
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You know it makes sense.
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@queenie pretty please, Yes, I think if you've had a recent positive you're exempt, which makes sense. I think the internet stops at the border of Salzburg
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@Scarlet, I think you’re right! People in our block think it’s from the dark side
Last edited by Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name: on Thu 3-12-20 13:43; edited 1 time in total
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Poster: A snowHead
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There will certainly be concerns about the February high season (not least amongst those who are still hoping to bring their children skiing).
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@radar, it is the 19th, the government website has been updated, I just needed to clear the cache. But in any case the tourism ban is already effective and has been since early November.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@queenie pretty please, thanks, have someone friends going out for the winter who are thinking getting out before it changes.
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But what about returning to the UK, I cant see whether we still have to self isolate for 14 days or not>
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@jafa, you still have to quarantine on your return, it’s not on the corridor list
Last edited by Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do. on Thu 3-12-20 14:46; edited 1 time in total
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I can legally go I suppose as we have an apartment there, and it would be a Stanley Johnson trip, getting it ready for any guests that we may have soon.
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@jafa, that seems to be a way to do it, you might want to check with your travel insurance provider or your car one as well if you are driving
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@stanton,
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Hey folks..
I would not bank on Austria opening Jan7/10th to Foreign Tourism..
December Holiday's in Austria, Germany , UK , NL etc are almost certainly going to lead to a rise in CV19 Contamination..
Quarantine Restrictions will have to be lifted into Austria & return Home Country.
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I actually think you're right......
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| Markymark29 wrote: |
@stanton,
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Hey folks..
I would not bank on Austria opening Jan7/10th to Foreign Tourism..
December Holiday's in Austria, Germany , UK , NL etc are almost certainly going to lead to a rise in CV19 Contamination..
Quarantine Restrictions will have to be lifted into Austria & return Home Country.
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I actually think you're right...... |
Don't feed the beast! Almost certainly right but you don't encourage it do you...
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Means our favourite troll won’t be able to ski in St Anton though!
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@DJL, if rumours are true he is not even in Austria, and not likely to be let back in in the near future!
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| munich_irish wrote: |
| @DJL, if rumours are true he is not even in Austria, and not likely to be let back in in the near future! |
Precisely!
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You know it makes sense.
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I was checking a bit ORF news yesterday evening, and I understand that from 19.12. you need to go to quarantine when entering Austria (19.12. was in ORF news at 22:00 yesterday, and also on ORF web it says, 19.12.). I also understand there's no changes to current situation for business travelers, but I didn't manage to get any info regarding single day trips? Any Austrian locals or "locals" have any info regarding this?
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@Markymark29, I agree as well as it only takes a couple of weeks of people mingling and it kicks off again
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Poster: A snowHead
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@primoz, pretty sure day trips are OK. There are thousands of people who cross the borders to work in Austria each day.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@queenie pretty please, I certainly hope they are. Thanks 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I dont understand the maths here. Why are lifts opening? Who gets to not lose money?
If hotels and restaurants are closed, is that not an even bigger hole in the local economy than the ski lifts being closed?
Will the lift company break even selling passes only to locals and day trippers? I assume it would be limited opening to save
If only locals and the type of day trippers who will actually show up, probably they will have all their own gear, wont need guides or instructors, wont be shopping etc
Just dont get the business model
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@peanuthead, agreed, it cant be sustainable
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@peanuthead, there are government support packages for all tourism-related businesses. The lift companies are of course already incurring considerable costs, land lease, staff costs, etc. So any money they can earn from day passes and season passes will at least mitigate some of their losses and reduce the amount of support needed from the government.
Plus the shops will be open. Many day trippers rent gear for the day, buy gear, etc. So that will hopefully mitigate some of their losses too.
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@peanuthead, there's more then just electricy or diesel for pistenbullies. There's whole bunch of season tickets sold, and if lifts dont work certain amount of days, you can demand money back. Then there's kot of locals and other daily skiers, so it's not all for nothing. But yeah, there's not gonna be much of profit, if any at all.
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Thanks @trainee snowboard jedi, and @radar for your advice.
All the best!
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@queenie pretty please, I assume there wont be many people renting skis, the people likely to rock up will have their own gear.
Yeah presume they will have very few lifts open and pistes bashed to keep costs down. Would a 2- week-worth refund on season ticket really offset cost of opening? Would staff costs not be paid by government while furloughed like everywhere else?
Just wondering, do you think there is possibility recent opening announcement is all for show and in a week or so they will just announce that they wont open lifts for Christmas after all because cases still too high?
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For many lift companies eg the Arlberg, there is a public transport obligation as part of their operating licence. This means that the lift companies have to run some sort of service on pre published dates except if forced to close by weather conditions etc. There was at attempt a while ago by one of the lift companies, Axamer Lizum I think, to make a request to the government in Innsbruck to suspend that part of their operating licence for the upcoming season, as far as I know this has not been progressed. The Arlberg have already said that once they can open they plan to run between 30% - 50% of the lifts.
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