 Poster: A snowHead
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OK so I want to compile glacier info. If you know one reasonably well please copy the headings below and add as many answers as you can to this post. Answers should refer to summer skiing only. Thanks,
Country:
Nearest lively town:
Dist from lively town to lift:
Name of Glacier:
Slopes face:
No of runs:
Total KM runs:
%black/red/blue:
Chair/T/Button:
Summer season dates:
dist from Calais (M):
nearest airport(s):
team training:
town height:
height of runs:
general comments:
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mike, sorry to be unhelpful. I don't really do forms like this. If you want to know anything about the following glaciers, I've skied them: Tignes, Les 2 Alpes, Val d'Isere, Hintertux, Solden, Kaprun (Kitzsteinhorn), Stubai, Zermatt, Saas Fee, Engelberg, Laax.
For a lovely resort (with good access to glacier) the best are Zermatt and Saas Fee
For best skiing: Hintertux (you don't have to stay there - try Lanersbach)
Other good glaciers: Saas Fee, Solden, Stubai.
Personally I'd avoid glaciers in July/Aug/Sept unless the snow is known to be OK. Things can get ropey in high summer.
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Yes, I should have mentioned that. They've all been bottled, and are available in London or Bourg St Maurice.
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Country: France
Nearest lively town: LDA
Dist from lively town to lift:???
Name of Glacier:Lauze
Slopes face:West and North West
No of runs:Depends on how you count them
Total KM runs:don't know about 50 hectares
%black/red/blue:Mostly blue - 2 decents reds early season and one (unmarked) black - Snowheads Wall early on as well - reds steeper than Tignes black btw!!
Chair/T/Button:3 chairs 1 funicular 7 T bars 2 rope tows
Summer season dates:18/06 - end Aug
dist from Calais (M):670 ish
nearest airport(s):Grenoble
team training:yes
town height:1650
height of runs:2900 - 3600
general comments:wide
www.les2alpes.com (tourist office) www.2alpes.com (lift company)
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Hintertux
Country: Austria
Nearest lively town: Mayerhofen
Dist from lively town to lift:[? free bus about 40 min (other villages enroute with bars etc. Very good hotels at base of glacier can reccomend Rindererhof)
Name of Glacier: Hintertux
Slopes face: all directions!
No of runs: 18 runs (plus subsidiaries) also board park
Total KM runs: 86 Km
%black/red/blue: 3 black, 8 red, 6 blue
Chair/T/Button: 7 'T' bars
dist from Calais (M): ?
nearest airport(s): Innesbruch, Munich
town height: Hintertux village 1500m
height of runs: Kaserer 3268m
general comments: very friendly, very picturesque villages and great walks (lakes nearby) in the summer after a morning on the glacier.
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| The Abominable snowHead wrote: |
| Tignes, Les 2 Alpes, Val d'Isere, Hintertux, Solden, Kaprun (Kitzsteinhorn), Stubai, Zermatt, Saas Fee, Engelberg, Laax. |
That's a good list. More recent ones in Austria are Kaunertal, Pitztal and Molltal. Not sure if those stay open all summer though.
also:
Norway: Folgefonn, Galdhopiggen, Stryn.
N America: Blackcomb, Mt Hood
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Presenna Glacier above Passo Tonale in Italy.
Village 1900m
Glacier 2700-3000m
Reached by: Modern Gondola to 2500m, 2 man chair to 2700m, 2 T-Bars to 3000m
Wide Reds and 1 black above 2700m. Great black run back to the village.
Still very skiable back to village. Checkout www.adamelloski.com
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easiski, I went to LDA last July and only saw 2 t-bars side by side going up the middle of the glacier and a run on either side coming back down, probably blues. Where are the other runs ? I can't see them on the piste map either. and what is a snowheads wall ?
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Lorraine, I should have emphasised summer skiing in my question. Is 86km available in the summer ? that's a lot. do you know what dates it is open in the summer ? does the free bus run in the summer ? So, the journey takes 40 mins, how frequently does it run ? and if I understand you the Rindererhof is 40 mins bus ride from the nearest lively town which is Mayerhofen ?
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johnboy, Do your comments apply to summer skiing, ski back to 1900m in summer ?
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mike.healy, I went to Hintertux in August last year and it was less than Lorraine's figures. If you have a piste map, the runs available were the blues 9/9a from the Olperer lifts and the reds 5 and 8 from the gefrorene wand 1+2 and the red 4 from the 2er gefrorene wand 3b lifts.
If you have a car, Mayrhofen to Hintertux is more like 25 minutes I would have thought 
Hope this helps.
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You know it makes sense.
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mike.healy, speaking from personal experience I would say skiing on glaciers up until end of June is OK. Beyond that forget it until end of October. If you really insist on skiing in August-September then Hintertux is the best of a bad lot, but frankly I wouldn't bother. Perhaps if you are doing some kind of combined activity holiday ( e.g mountain bike + ski ) then doing a day on the glacier is interesting if only to see how messed up a glacier looks in the middle of summer. Be prepared for blank ice in the morning and knee deep slush by midday ( of course there are exceptions and every once in a while you do get a dump even in the middle of summer, but don't count on it ).
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Ray Zorro, It's not 25 minutes on the bus and you must have been shifting to do it in 25 minutes by car! My piste figures come from this years piste guide, I can check again in May if you like! 
mike.healy, No you cannot ski the lot in Summer you do 3, 4, 5, 8, 11a (reds). 5a, 8a, 11b (black). 9. 9a (blue). These are the ones that are open all the time. 11, 12 if there has been a good amout of snow (certainly open until backend of May). The rest will be closed for the summer.
One note of caution particularly in the Summer, stay on piste the cravasses are awesome, I know I have said this before but about 2 years ago they lost a piste basher down one!
The Rindererhof is at the base of the mountain where you catch the Gondola, the food is excellent and there is an open air pool and tennis courts nearby. Alternatively you could stay in Voderlannersbach (the Forelle is good) or lannersbach. The bus is free with a permit that the hotel owner will give you for your stay.
Mike Lawrie, I agree with you, unless you are training with a team this should be looked upon as a mountain holiday with skiing. You can ski in your shorts if you wish, friends of mine have done it in less! You should ski the morning and then take the opportunity to enjoy the mountains from a different perspective.
Personally I wouldn't want to stay in Mayerhofen, I'd rather go to Innesbruch but then we have been skiing here almost every year for the last 10 years and we have made some very good friends in the valley, who have since been over to stay with us.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Lorraine, mike.healy, I went to Hintertux in August and November last year and neither time were any of the blacks 5a, 8a or 11b open.
As I said before, in August 2005 runs red 4, 5 (but not down to 3er Schlegeiss) and 8 and blues 9 and 9A were open.
In November, red runs 3, 4, 5, 8, 11, 11A and blues 9, 9A and 12 were open.
I won't argue about the time to Mayrhofen as we didn't do the split time, but it is only 25-30km and the road is not particularly winding apart from a couple of places. I seem to recall that we made Innsbruck in a little over an hour and I definitely did Salzburg/Hintertux in 2 hours 10 mins. So I don't think my timing was that inaccurate.
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Another one we haven't mentioned yet: Val Senales / Schnalstal
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don't know if it still opens but Val Thorens used to be open summer and from October (1976 !) - team training only and restricted runs - official website indicates lifts open for pedestrians and mountain bikes - no mention of snow !
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mike.healy,
No, I was just refering to the current conditions.
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Chris Craggs, VT glaicer hasn't opened in summer for some time. I think they also removed the highest of the glacier chairs somewhile ago, something to do with the height of the pylons exceeding some EU directive and it not being worthwhile replacing because of the short summer season.
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Glacier 3000 / Diablerets
Country: Switzerland
Nearest lively town: lively? Aigle I suppose, or Lausanne
Dist from lively town to lift: 15 mins from Aigle, 45 min drive from Lausanne
Name of Glacier: Glacier 3000 (Glacier de Tsanfleuron)
Slopes face: Northish
No of runs: 2-5
Total KM runs: not much, more in October
%black/red/blue: about 0/15/85 ; superpipe ; snowpark
Chair/T/Button: 2 access cable cars, 1 quad chair, 3 t-bars
Summer season dates: Mid-June to late July, reopens mid-October dependant on snow conditions
dist from Calais (M): ??? quite a bit
nearest airport(s): Geneva / Sion
team training: Yes
town height: les diablerets, 1300m
height of runs: 2900-3000m
general comments: Might be closed this year, but 80% chance opening summer 2007. Relatively flat glacier with little more than the (very good) snowpark on offer over the summer months. Very picturesque, with lake geneva 1/2hour drive away. For change of ideas, brilliant lift-served mountain biking in PDS 1/2 hour drive away
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mike.healy,
Why do you want this info 
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Ray Zorro, they were in Feb!
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| Lorraine wrote: |
| Ray Zorro, they were in Feb! |
I'm sure they were, but mike.healy, was stressing the summer
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Chill
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johnboy, I should have made it clearer in my initial post.
I want to go skiing in late June/ early July with my 18 yr old son. In the afternoons and evenings we need something to do, mountain biking, bars, shops, golf range, swimming, etc. Last year we had a week in LDA in July. From what I recall the runs were a bit limited (though I was still a bit cautious then) but there was a good bit going on in town. And it was T-bar's going up. Got spoilt in Bansko in Feb with almost all chairs.
I did get bored by the end of the week and on 2 days they closed the lifts due to bad weather up top.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Ray Zorro, I think Lorraine supports West Ham, so she may not be a native Northumbrian! (Sorry if I should have that wrong, Lorraine.)
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You know it makes sense.
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laundryman, yes, I wondered about that myself, but concluded that it may just be because there are no football teams in the North-East.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Ray Zorro, watch it!! Women watch foorball up here!!!
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easiski, Thanks Charlotte. I admit I was nervous as it was only my second week, then I got altitude sickness on day 1 and the lifts were closed for 2 days, I suppose I never really got my bearings. It is bigger that I realised last year, so a return is very possible as there is so much else to do around town. I hadn't come across those maps they willbe very useful.
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mike.healy, No sweast - I was a bit surprised at what you said,but that explains it! The maps are on the DAL (lift company) website, rather than the tourist office one. The TO one directs you to DAL I think. 
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easiski, Were any of the runs shown closed last July ? Are they usually all open in July ?
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mike.healy, Depends on when in July. We usually lose the Roche Mantel and the Signal (and consequently the two red runs leading down to them) sometime in July. Sometimes not until the end - it all depends on how hot it is between now and then! General rule of thumb is mid-July though. (I have skied them into August). At the moment it's not particularly hot - let's hope it stays this way - sunny and pleasant, but not hot. 
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Im mike healys son and he's just shown me the piste maps that were posted by easyski (than-q), im a bit confused, when we went there last year the ice caves were at the top of the glacier,were they not?, why is it then that they are shown as being half-way up the glacier rather than at its peak? does this mean there were more runs that we were unable to access? im nbot sure of them being at the top, just remember not being able to go any higher.
also it would seem that there are in fact a decent number of runs up there however when we went there the only runs we were presented with were the three that run parrallel just in front of the top of the second gondola. as far as i was aware and although i may be wrong i recall it being mentioned by our instructor that these were the only available runs in the summer months however the info you have provided conflicts this, can you or anyone help?
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easiski,
That's nearly twice the area of our farm!!
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nickh93, welcome to snowHeads! 
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nickh93, The ice caves are at the top of the funicular, but not at the top of the glacier - there's another lift further up. You went in august, so the Puy Salie and the Lauze were probably the only runs left by then. Coming in July is very different - better still, come in June!!! We can sometimes ski down to 2,600 at the beginning of the summer season. I don't tell any porkies - what I say is the truth about the conditions.
johnboy, Quite big - you'll have to check it out at the PSB!!!
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FAQ
you'd better hope FTS and Paul Mason aren't interested in glaciers. 