 Poster: A snowHead
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Hi all
In need of some help - bought some black crow orb freebirds in a 178 and some shift bindings. Just took them into a Ellis Brigham to get them drilled and they’re saying they can’t because the binding doesn’t fit on the mounting plate. Does that make sense? When I bought the skis I didn’t have the time to get them mounted so bought the bindings at home - but Mountain Air in Verbier didn’t tell me there would be any issues in putting shifts on these skis (and they sell lots of them).
Any help or advice greatly appreciated!
Thanks
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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The Shift mounting pattern is outside of the reinforced mounting area of the ski. I've mounted a few of them with Shifts without issue but they're mounted with Quiver Killer inserts which give a stronger mount. I'll mount them for you but it'd be at your risk (which you'd sign-off on) and it'd void the warranty on the skis.
However, the obvious question is why are you mounting an 880g binding with only one climbing height on a lightweight touring ski? Putting a Shift on that ski is really a miss match. That ski is screaming out for proper lightweight binding.
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Thanks for the quick response - I often ski with friends so wanted one ski and binding combo I could use with them and then also go off and tour with. Thought this was a good compromise but clearly not! I’m pretty heavy too so liked the idea of the alpine style toe piece (100kg).
What would you suggest? Friend uses atx?
Sounds like I will be the proud owner of another pair of skis and another binding soon...
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@crooky13, welcome to sHs 
How fit are you? The shift is a tidy tourer for an hour or two and even the ‘normal’ black crows aren’t super heavy.
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Thanks, Sharkymark!
Am pretty fit. Work out 5/6 days a week (cardio and hiit mainly) but I am pretty heavy so I’m not exactly fast going uphill. Guess I could flog the Black Crows and then start again? Or I buy some more skis and mount the shifts on them...
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I am in a very similar position. Through alcohol and the ease of 1 click payment I bought a pair of scott superguides 88. I have also a pair of shift (birthday present) qkillered on my other skis. Do I stick heavy bindings on to a light weight tourer or ditch the speed guides and get something better on the down which is my priority such as the altum 94 (my other skis I usually take on holiday are WD directors & R108 with skins) so could easily slip these in as well.
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@crooky13, in which case I wouldn’t worry too much about the weight. Something fairly stiff and 100-110 underfoot or so IMHO would go well with the binding
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@WASHOUT, I own the Superguide 105 and they’re way too light for shifts so the 88s will be killed dead by them for sure! Buy some lightweight pins for the 88s or flog ‘em and see above post 
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Ok sounds like I’ve gone from a one ski quiver to a two ski quiver just like that! Shifts will get a new home on some wider skis and the black crows get some lighter bindings!
Marker kingpins? Or still too heavy? My din is 10+ so some touring bindings seem to be a little lightweight for me
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Salomon MTN are excellent and bomber for big guys.
A 178cm ski sounds short for a 100g pilot. How tall are you?
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@Sharkymark tbh I kinda knew the answer to my question but was hoping somebody would have backed up the other option of QK the shifts on to the superguides '88's if you get a taste for greater distance uphill then QK a more touring based binding on to it and I can be a cheap bug and avoid another purchase.
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From CH2O on the old thread
"95mm+ Shift
95mm- Tech
Our rules, the enforced mounting plate in all skis varies albeit covers the same length. If a particular skis says no, then it's no I'm afraid, Freebird skis are not the most consistent cores, however great skis. I'd not risk it personally. Plus the ski is very light and small, a shift seems a bit OTT."
Old thread now closed for you
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@KenX thanks!
@Spyderjon I’m 185-190 not sure of exact height so appreciate I should have sized up. That said, I skied both lengths and preferred the 178 and dint feel like I was overpowering the ski.
Put the shifts on the Corvus freebirds? Or some Dps? Thanks for the suggestion on the Solomon MTN
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