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Just got back from Cervinia.
We used Airport Transfer Services https://www.airportransferservices.com/.
The minibus took us to the "town centre" and then got some local guy to take us to the apartment. The "local guy" refused to go all the way and dumped us quite a walk uphill with everything.
We then had a little "conversation" with the outfit about this "door to door" and he got rather stroppy and said they don't do it if the road is icy because they can get stuck and once they got stuck for 2hrs. Well, this is winter, so maybe a suitable vehicle is called for?
So, beware.
The other firms we used e.g. Fly Ski Shuttle deal with this by not offering door to door and while they have been very good they do as a result sometimes drop you off somewhere really inconvenient; you have to get onto google maps and check out what sort of walk you will have with your luggage and how much uphill it is. A lot of ski resorts have hotels a long way up a hill.
I can see why there seems to be so much business for what are basically taxis, at say £400 each way. OK for say 6 people sharing.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Welcome to Italy.
Rent a car.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Very interesting. We are using Taxi Cervinia next week and they are offering a door to door service there and back. Will update with how this goes.
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I don't know what the solution is, other than to specifically get them to confirm they will take you to THAT apartment. Send them a photo of the actual building (from google images).
Re car rental, well yes, but you get the same problem if you rent a cheap car, and renting a proper 4x4 is probably going to cost a lot more than a shuttle bus. And there isn't always a parking space.
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I drive to the door transfers, and while hotels are almost invariably OK, some chalets and apartments are up steep narrow hills, covered in sheet ice. Choice then is help passengers with their luggage up the last 100 meters, or they wait in the van while I spend several minutes fitting chains for the last 15 seconds of driving. Unless passengers have a specific disability they generally have no problems with a short assisted walk.
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Used one from Salzburg airport to Saalbach and back last week. Arrived up a steep-ish hill in falling snow and a snow covered road and it was exactly what was promised, door to door.
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| Peter Stevens wrote: |
| With respect, Robin, if they are disabled they won't be skiing. |
With respect...ever heard of adaptive skiing?
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| Peter Stevens wrote: |
With respect, Robin, if they are disabled they won't be skiing  |
Wow!!! I would advise watching Ski Sunday from a couple of weeks ago
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@Peter Stevens, Had a young lady in a wheelchair a couple of weeks ago - no idea if she was skiing, but no reason to think not. Did make sure she was close as possible to her accommodation though. We make sure customers are Ok to get to the accommodation, and help if needed - though often they are younger, fitter and stronger than me!
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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@Peter Stevens, In fairness, 1. that's rather obviously a brokerage website, so who knows what you'll get? and 2. if it was contractually door to door, I'd be asking for a refund from my credit card company.
Criticising "door to door" services in general seems rather unfair to those like @RobinS's company who do run a proper door to door service.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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We stayed in Cervinia years ago and recall being dropped by the coach transfer to walk the last bit and our luggage was shuttled somehow to the hotel.
Years ago my father used to come with us when we stayed in Niederau. He could hardly put one foot in front of the other and we were very that whatever coach/minibus or taxi was transporting him, or him and us, got him as close to the hotel entrance as possible. So he was slightly disabled, came on a ski holiday, but didn’t ski.
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| Peter Stevens wrote: |
With respect, Robin, if they are disabled they won't be skiing
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Ever heard of the winter paralympics? Or are you just setting out offend all the adaptive skiers and boarders?
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You know it makes sense.
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Apologies for any offence, but if you actually read how the thread developed, it is obvious that this was a set-up, picking up on a single sentence, and just another way to beat up somebody new to the forum. There is a "particular culture" here, as indeed on a lot of social media if the moderator is asleep.
The percentage of disabled skiers is probably of the order of 0.1% to 1%. The percentage of dodgy transfer services is, what??? Plenty of previous reports, people posting about them not turning up... I have had perhaps a 10% not turning up and in one case spent €400 getting a taxi etc back to catch the plane. In that case I got money pack on the shuttle bus (they got really aggressive about it, but there are times when the shysters called Paypal can be useful) but never got back any of the 400. Having to lug luggage a long way is pretty common, though in most cases one can reasonably expect it because most companies won't stop even if going right past your hotel.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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@Peter Stevens, I haven’t come across PayPal being shysters, they have always been helpful in my dealings with them.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@Peter Stevens,
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The percentage of disabled skiers is probably of the order of 0.1% to 1%
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Interested to know where you get your figures or how you arrive at your estimate and what definition of disability you are using?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| Peter Stevens wrote: |
| it is obvious that this was a set-up, picking up on a single sentence, and just another way to beat up somebody new to the forum. |
This has been years in the planning. To all those involved I just want to say what a beautifully executed operation it was. These new people have to be controlled somehow and this method is excellent.
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Wow. That escalated.
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
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Some people have way too much keyboard time They ought to be out skiing.
Social media will never change, and moderating a forum for informative discussion is too much work.
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@Peter Stevens, you need to make allowances for the fact that the most prolific posters, and therefore most respected due to their omnipresence, are actually some of most stupid people to ever log onto a message board.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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From another life, I happen to know more than I want to know about running forums (as mod/admin), and it is a fact that if you allow people to beat each other up, the traffic on the site goes up 5x to 10x.
It is a perpetual dilemma for any site which needs to pay for the hosting and for some general server admin work (the latter costing a lot more than the former).
And the whole funding situation is getting worse by the year, with so many people, especially the younger ones, leaving web forums and going to the facebook ones. On FB you have a dozen forums for every imaginable human activity, mostly full of one-line drivel, but hey that's all that most people can write anyway, nowadays Only the biggest will survive, e.g. Mumsnet.
Hence, we get the forum styles which we deserve
And yeah, with the skiclub.co.uk link above, there is the "battle of the forums". Most of them hate each other. I could not help noticing some huge threads taking the p1ss out of the SCGB one. No idea why, though it seems like a very polite site. I have not done the organised stuff they seem to do because I don't think I am a good enough skier to go out in a group. Even off-internet, most volunteer organisations can't stand each other, dominated as they tend to be by characters with massive egos.
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You know it makes sense.
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@Peter Stevens, This site doesn't have many adverts, so if you were looking for a role as a well-paid troll then I think you have come to the wrong place.
The common factor that I see in recent argumentative threads is you.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@Peter Stevens,
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| with the skiclub.co.uk link above, there is the "battle of the forums". |
That's just @Dave of the Marmottes, I think he must have seen 'something nasty in the ski locker' or something. He's just an idiot who plays identity politics and just because I'm a member of the Ski Club and he hates me, he vicariously hates the Ski Club.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Who is beating anyone up Peter? You made a ridiculous statement and were called out for it.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@Gerry, grow up - if anyone plays identity politics on here its you with your social justice warrior crap on behalf of the downtrodden SCGB and your contempt for the collective bedwetters on snowheads.
@Peter Stevens does seem to have a bit of an MO - rant then complain about lack of moderation/bullying when people don't leap to agree with him.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Debating this with an idiot is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are, it’ll just knock over all the pieces, poo-poo on the board, and strut about like it's won anyway.
Last edited by Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see? on Mon 27-01-20 23:29; edited 1 time in total
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@Fridge03, 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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I’m a very occasional poster and I think this forum is lovely, and very helpful. I read your “if they’re disabled they won’t be skiing” comment and thought that was an incredibly patronising and ill-informed comment. Why shouldn’t a disabled person ski? I’m not surprised people called you out for it, rightly so IMO.
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