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DPS Phantom 2.0 base treatment

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@BobinCH, That was an early delivery from the Dream Time order, mine never used to turn up in September Very Happy
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PowderAdict wrote:
@BobinCH, That was an early delivery from the Dream Time order, mine never used to turn up in September Very Happy


They must have seen the forecast Very Happy
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Skins!! Before putting skins on a new Phantom base, remember that DPS specifically say you should do a few laps on piste to bed down the brand new Phantom treatment, before using skins. It‘s to do with conditioning the new Phantom base with the friction from snow crystals. This will prevent the skins leaving glue on the base.
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Makes sense
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Thanks for the tip!
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I wonder what ski shop /service owners think about phantom glide.
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@combin, or anyone else who knows, I applied Phantom 1.0 to my skis some time ago and due to illness/Covid they haven't been used since. It looks to be not impossible that the Chilterns will pick up enough snow for a slide next week, presumably even a full day of mucking about on UK snow/grass isn't going to be enough to bed them and I should not use my skins?
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@rambotion, coincidental that this should come up today. I was just reading this https://www.wildsnow.com/29023/glide-bases-wax-dps-phantom/

It goes on a bit but still sheds some further light.
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Interesting sounding stuff. But waxing is only 1/3 of a ski service. Edges and base repair are quite important. I hot wax my skis with an iron pre season, but they invariably go into a ski shop for a full ski width/length base squirt of ptex and edges after 4 weeks or so. I find that a slow hot wax taking several minutes on each ski till I can feel the iron heat on the top skin results in a waxing that lasts several weeks before a grey patch appears.
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Just caught up with this thread.

Seems the jury is still out reading the discussion at the bottom of @HammondR's link.
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Does anyone know of a UK ski shop who will apply the DPS Phantom treatment to my skis bought elsewhere?

I could try to do it myself at home, but I'm not sure whether the UV light/temperatures will be sufficient.
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There was a lot of discussion on SkiTalk about Phantom. Initially, it seemed like the masses were divided into a huge number of devotees of the stuff vs. the tuning purists. Eventually a couple of the purists thought it had its uses. And many of the diehard fans had come across instances where it didn't quite work on a given day. I'd say the ultimate conclusion was for the vast number of days when a good "universal wax" would be sufficient, Phantom was sufficient. For those super cold days, you still needed appropriate wax over your Phantom. And on the flipside of the thermometer, on those spring days where your structure better be good or you'll be applying wax just to get across the flats, Phantom alone won't be much help. But it certainly has its uses for travel. This purist has considered it. Smile
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I've had Phantom on my skis for 2 seasons now, and while not outstanding in comparison to having the perfect wax on every day for the given conditions, it's been great and only experienced base icing once, I'm sold on it!
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Not sure about anyone else but I only ever use a universal wax anyhow. I have neither the time or facilities to wax especially for a icy winter or warm spring day. So it's good to hear some reports that it can match that.
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Sorry to bump an old thread, but how did the Phantom test go @KenX, @BobinCH, @Grinning, ? Still good?

One question I have is when it wears out, does one have to base grind? I have an aversion to grinding my bases unless I absolutely must, I believe it reduces the life of the ski overall after once being told by my local shop that my set of skis couldn't be ground anymore.
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gixxerniknik wrote:
Sorry to bump an old thread, but how did the Phantom test go @KenX, @BobinCH, @Grinning, ? Still good?

One question I have is when it wears out, does one have to base grind? I have an aversion to grinding my bases unless I absolutely must, I believe it reduces the life of the ski overall after once being told by my local shop that my set of skis couldn't be ground anymore.


Works ok for me. Not better than wax but less hassle.

Wouldn’t worry too much about base grinds if done well / sparingly. I only have 1 pair that is ground to near the base and I must have put over 200 days and close to 10 full services on it as it’s my go to off piste pair that’s suffered a lot of shark attacks!
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My Wailers are holding up just fine with only home servicing including a p-texed core shot which I puzzle over waxing just that finger-sized portion. It’s untreated for now. Only had 30 days or so of use this year but sliding/pivoting as nicely as my waxed skis.
I like the waxing process though and appreciate the difference a fresh wax makes.
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