 Poster: A snowHead
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Normally I quite like boot room warmers but whilst having my new boots sorted by the very nice chaps at solutions 4 feet , Keith warned me off using them as they can change / reset the moulding of boot shells and footbeds.
They said better off taking boots up to your room , taking liners out and leaving somewhere warm to air dry.
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It depends on the boot drier. Any drier that is direct heat should be avoided, but if it’s just blowing warm air and doesn’t come close to the insole should be fine.
I guess it depends on how hot and sweaty your feet get, how much drying is needed. For me having warm boots in the morning is more important, as if my boots are cold they are impossible to get into by yourself.
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Try this instead............ Simply at day's end, ball up a good six or so pages of newspaper per boot, stuff all into the boot from toe to top and leave in for a good three hours. Remove and let air out. The newspaper absorbs a solid 95% contained moisture and the residual- overnight airing will do the rest. Never any need for dryers, etc. It's "old school" and works perfectly........................
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I usually avoid them because of the smell 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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I just do the clips upon my custom moulded boots and leave them on the floor of a heated boot/ski room.
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| PowderAdict wrote: |
It depends on the boot drier. Any drier that is direct heat should be avoided, but if it’s just blowing warm air and doesn’t come close to the insole should be fine.
I guess it depends on how hot and sweaty your feet get, how much drying is needed. For me having warm boots in the morning is more important, as if my boots are cold they are impossible to get into by yourself. |
I heat moulded my Atomic Hawx boots myself last year and was very pleased with the fit afterwards. I was concerned that the commercial boot dryers may reset the memory so did a bit of research into the temperatures that they blow warm air at. I came to the conclusion that 105F (40 C) air would do very little to the shell of the boots considering I had to heat them at 100C for 9 minutes for the oven fit procedure.
Even then, with 40C air blowing into the boot, it is the liner that will warm up, the shell will still be partly cooled by the outside air so will not even get to 40C.
I therefore used the hotel boot dryer racks and did not notice any re-tightening of the fit during the week I was there, but they were nice and dry and easy to get on in the mornings.
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Colin told me to avoid. Considering that my boots feel softer in warm spring conditions than cold, I can see how it can make a difference.
I got some of the Drysure things for Christmas last year and they're really good. Pop them in when you take the boots off and they'll be find in the morning. Things work all week without needing a 'recharge'.
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I’ve always used the boot room heaters and never found them to cause a problem.
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| denfinella wrote: |
| I usually avoid them because of the smell |
+1
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I noticed solutions 4 feet sell the portable sidas boot heaters on there website. I have seen hotel heaters getting very warm while the portable ones are a very low heat and need a long time to dry out any moisture.
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I take my boots back to the apartment. Usually warm enough.
At the end of the trip when I get home I take the liners and custom insoles out and leave them in the kitchen for a few days to thoroughly dry out.
Personally I wouldn't put them near a direct heat source.
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What if I was dancing on a table in a hot bar and the friction generated by my moonwalking caused my shells to buckle?! 
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You know it makes sense.
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@Klamm Franzer, you’d have to throw your old boots out and buy a new pair. 
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| sheffskibod wrote: |
Normally I quite like boot room warmers but whilst having my new boots sorted by the very nice chaps at solutions 4 feet , Keith warned me off using them as they can change / reset the moulding of boot shells and footbeds.
They said better off taking boots up to your room , taking liners out and leaving somewhere warm to air dry. |
Not sure I buy this one, given the temps that are needed to soften and mould shells are significantly higher than any boot dryer I have come across.
However I might be talking out of my bottom, so it would be useful to hear from one of the guys on here that work in boot fitting to get a definitive answer.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Can confirm I knackered my custom insoles by using hotel dryer. Was the shiny metal tube kind, weight of boot borne by tube directly onto insole and , tah-dah, 1cm groove formed overnight
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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There is also the issue of "user error" when placing boots on heaters.
Lots of people dont read the signs and put boots upside down meaning the vapour doesnt escape as easily.
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Colin at Solutions4feet is a real expert on ski boots. I heed his advice.
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My boots are large enough that there's no way the end of the boot heater would reach as far as the insole bit. Weight taken by the top of the tongue or cuff depending on whether I can put the boots on the the proper way around, or if everyone's filled the rack the wrong way round and I have little choice (I'm not going to rearrange the rack properly).
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Had my heat molded boots and footbeds for 4 years. Done 6 week long trips with them and they have always gone either on a self with the blowers above or on one of the "arms" that stick out from the wall.
Not one issue with changing shape and boots always toasty warm and dry in the morning.
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I doubt a conventional drying room will be hot enough to soften the shell to the point that any punches will relax-out. Yes, they may feel softer when you first put them on, which is probably not a bad thing, but will quickly revert once you get outside. I however would never put boots or liners directly on a radiator/heater.
Indirectly, this is a plus for Zipfits, used as recommended. The liner is out of the boot at the end of the day. Both dry more thoroughly than boots with liners still inside.
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I've got custom moulded boots and have used hotel/chalet boot driers for years and never had any issues.
Considering that the liners get baked in an oven for a while before they get formed around your legs I very much doubt a bit of warm air is going to do them any harm.
And you always hang boots upside down, otherwise unless you're on the top shelf you'll end up with other peoples melted snow inside your boots.
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| achilles wrote: |
| Colin at Solutions4feet is a real expert on ski boots. I heed his advice. |
This. And if I can feel the difference between a warm day and a cold one then effectively sticking them in an oven on low setting overnight is going to have an effect too....plus its unnecessary anyway so why risk it?
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| andy wrote: |
| My boots are large enough that there's no way the end of the boot heater would reach as far as the insole bit. Weight taken by the top of the tongue or cuff depending on whether I can put the boots on the the proper way around, or if everyone's filled the rack the wrong way round and I have little choice (I'm not going to rearrange the rack properly). |
Never mind just the insoles, my boot shells are moulded to my feet.
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+1 for this
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the liners get baked in an oven for a while before they get formed around your legs I very much doubt a bit of warm air is going to do them any harm.
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Intuition liners are heated to 119deg C before moulding, so there's no way any boot driers/radiators will effect the moulding of the inners
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The smell is a bigger problem. As others have mentioned I didn't think the temp is high enough to cause a reversal in the heat moulding.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| SnoodlesMcFlude wrote: |
| achilles wrote: |
| Colin at Solutions4feet is a real expert on ski boots. I heed his advice. |
This. And if I can feel the difference between a warm day and a cold one then effectively sticking them in an oven on low setting overnight is going to have an effect too....plus its unnecessary anyway so why risk it? |
Isn't there a difference here of the plastic being more malleable when warm, but that is very clearly nowherenear the thermoset point at which they are manipulated during fitting etc.
I've for a long time used boot heaters, similar to the spyderjon type without any issues. As they are gently heated each night after use they don't build up that decay smell from being left damp. The heaters aren't that powerful though, a cold floor or room is enough to prevent them drying properly. We usually take them to apartment each night to plug them in.
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| Klamm Franzer wrote: |
| What if I was dancing on a table in a hot bar and the friction generated by my moonwalking caused my shells to buckle?! |
You'd probably be able to strap them up with all the snapped knicker elastic on the bar floor.
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You know it makes sense.
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@ski3, dunno, but when I bought mine from CEM he explicitly said that the drop in type were fine but to stay away from the boot room racks. The man deals with boots for a living so I'm happy to follow his advice.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| SnoodlesMcFlude wrote: |
| @ski3, dunno, but when I bought mine from CEM he explicitly said that the drop in type were fine but to stay away from the boot room racks. The man deals with boots for a living so I'm happy to follow his advice. |
+1
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| Hurtle wrote: |
| SnoodlesMcFlude wrote: |
| @ski3, dunno, but when I bought mine from CEM he explicitly said that the drop in type were fine but to stay away from the boot room racks. The man deals with boots for a living so I'm happy to follow his advice. |
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I'm seeing him for a fitting on the 30th and if he tells me this I will be heeding his advice too!!!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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i have seen the boot room type get very warm to point the the bars where almost untouchable (the room stunk) while my drop in ones are through a usb plug which i think is 2 amp 10W power so very little heat.
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I don't like putting boots on that are too warm, as the feet sweat and then feel the cold. I find just hanging them upside down suffices. If they feel damp when I take them off, I take them back to the hotel and remove the liners for the night. The hallways are usually warm enough to dry them
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