Please take a look at the video below. From my, limited, point of view I have two main problems: too much upper body movement and not keeping arms in front and plant from the wrists. I've tried keeping them in front so I can see them, but it feels very weird. Any suggestions?
@mofo, thanks, that makes clearer what I thought I could see a hint of on the easy terrain.
When analysing skiing it's best to start with what the skis are doing. In your second clip are your skis finding early grip and providing you with enough control to influence the shape of the turn? I'd say not. The beginning of the the turn is a little rushed, and the skis are skidding / drifting more than is ideal. What you are doing with your arms has relatively little to do with this, at best a secondary factor. I think you should concentrate on standing more effectively on the outside ski at the start of the turn (at the moment you tend to drop your shoulders in to the turn, banking rather than angulating), and not rushing things. Once you get a stronger setup phase to the turn you can use the forces you are generating to tip and balance against the skis more effectively, giving you more control over your turn shape. This will probably reduce your tendency to twist your shoulders, as your skis will be turning effectively so subconsciously you'll feel less need to twist your upper body to get the turns that you want.
As for your arms, providing they are not causing any upper body rotation (they aren't) and you are able to do a well timed pole plant (you are), does it matter so much what you do with them?
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I'm a snowboarder, but to me the word "angulation" came to mind in both.
Thank you @rob@rar for the feedback, very good and unexpected. Some friends told me I tend to rush the turn, not finising it.
I'll try to practice early edge & grip and come back with the results.
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@mofo, doesn't look very dynamic, the legs aren't doing much (knee bend) and it's not very aggressive.
Your upper body is lightly swinging in line with the ski's when it should be facing the fall line with ski's driving left and right underneath you.
Note: I am not a ski instructor
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@Austrian Seagull, now I don't know what to do next, buy a skipass or change the clothes?
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@Austrian Seagull, now I don't know what to do next, buy a skipass or change the clothes?
I’d go with the skipass and follow Layne’s advice. Also, get those hands out in front and put a bit more energy into the pole plant.
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@rob@rar is an excellent instructor - take his advice. It matters what the skis are doing, not what your upper body is doing. When I did a week's ski clinic, some years ago, the instructor only videod our legs and skis. Although we nearly all wore black salopettes he knew exactly who was who. I was the one with non-parallel shins (though not the only one).
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Though when it gets steep and nasty I always find it really useful to remember to keep that inside arm up and forward. When I did an off piste week with easiksi (another excellent instructor) she was yelling "Arm, Arm, Arm" as we struggled to commit ourselves to a steep turn. And her video showed clearly that it was when I let that inside arm drop that I fell over. Sometimes we just need something simple to hang on to!
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Next weekend I'll practice more. It is very difficult to find real technical instructors in Romania and just watching videos online doesn't cut it.
You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
What helps me with the hands thing is to bump my fists up in front of my face when starting off, also skiing without pole with hands and arms doing a superman thing as a drill.
What rob says.
A stronger pole plant to set up the turn.
Slightly off topic maybe give skiers you’re passing a bit more room.
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I am not an Instructor, but FWIW, this is my view.
- Get the weight onto the uphill ski early
- Change edges by projecting body forward and across the skis
- Drive the skis (especially the d/hill ski) by flexing at the the ankles
- Control speed by holding onto the turn longer, rather than skidding the skis sideways..ie don't force the turn
As others have said, your skiing just looks a little passive
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What @rob@rar said. I thought this was the key bit:
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I think you should concentrate on standing more effectively on the outside ski at the start of the turn (at the moment you tend to drop your shoulders in to the turn, banking rather than angulating), and not rushing things. Once you get a stronger setup phase to the turn you can use the forces you are generating to tip and balance against the skis more effectively, giving you more control over your turn shape
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I wouldn't be worrying about arms or upper body movement (pretty decent as is, priority is elsewhere). I think you want more separation between upper and lower body to drive higher edge angles and I think the starting point for that is getting the weight over the outside ski just as Rob says.
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