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I've seen a few comments by SHs who will be in Japan this season, so thought I'd start a conditions thread for it.

The first low level snowfalls seem to have hit Hokkaido over the last couple of days, and the outlook for the second half of November looks good:





I'm going to be in Hokkaido for 4 weeks from mid-Jan until mid-Feb next year, can't wait and fingers crossed for a good one! Very Happy


Some useful links (happy to edit to add more):


Current conditions:


https://www.snowjapan.com/japan-daily-snow-weather-reports/

https://www.snowjapan.com/japan-daily-snow-weather-reports/webcams

http://www.jma.go.jp/en/amedas/203.html?elementCode=2

http://niseko.nadare.info/


Radar / nowcast:


https://www.jma.go.jp/en/kaikotan/


Forecast (for Niseko Hirafu area):


https://www.snow-forecast.com/resorts/Niseko/6day/mid

https://www.yr.no/place/Japan/Hokkaido/Hirafu/long.html

http://www.meteociel.fr/cartes_obs/gens_display.php?ext=1&lat=42.8&lon=140.6833


Other forums:


https://www.ski.com.au/xf/forums/japan.51/
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Saw this yesterday and me feel a bit sad:

https://www.niseko.ne.jp/en/news/japanese-winter-2019-20-weather-forecast/

Then again it is a forecast and should be seen as that and the silver lining is the 40% chance of average or 20% chance of above average is not bad news at all Madeye-Smiley
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I’ll be on Hokkaido for the last 3 weeks of Feb, and I’d like lots of snow, apart from one day when the plan is to skin up mount Yotei, so blue sky on that day please Very Happy

Last year the standard phone apps seemed to give as good or better forecasts than the dedicated websites.
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@extremerob, Interesting, thanks.

Warmer than average expected temperatures makes a good case for heading to Hokkaido rather than Honshu this winter.
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extremerob wrote:
Saw this yesterday and me feel a bit sad:

https://www.niseko.ne.jp/en/news/japanese-winter-2019-20-weather-forecast/

Then again it is a forecast and should be seen as that and the silver lining is the 40% chance of average or 20% chance of above average is not bad news at all Madeye-Smiley


Soooo, in Japan they have stupid people as well (those that “predict” what the winter be like in the long term).
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PowderAdict wrote:
Last year the standard phone apps seemed to give as good or better forecasts than the dedicated websites.


It's pretty easy when the forecast is snow 24/7 Neh Neh

Yes agree with you the phone apps aren't too bad at all - big fan of dark sky
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Soooo, in Japan they have stupid people as well (those that “predict” what the winter be like in the long term).


It's not just guesswork...

The winter weather in Japan is affected by ENSO, the changing sea surface temperature of the tropical Pacific. This winter looks likely to be a neutral or weak El Nino winter, pointing towards average or warmer than average temperatures for Japan.

Diagram for affects of El Nino:

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It's started snowing in SW Hokkaido.

It will rain this coming week, then snow again.

There'll most probably be one or two more rain events before the anticipated Opening Days at the end of the month.

Some time in December the tap will be turned on and it will snow at some stage almost every day between that point and the end of January.

If you're visiting Hokkaido this winter and just plan on skiing one resort / area then you will either have the conditions of your life or return home wondering what all the fuss is about. Or something in-between.

If you're prepared to travel to a different resort from your accommodation base - no more than 1hr - then you will experience the best conditions during your stay.

Weather and snowfall can be VERY localised.

At least that's been my experience since December 2006.

Enjoy.
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KenX, my OH and I and maybe a Frenchie will be based in Hirafu Niseko for three or so days ski touring from Monday Feb 10th I think, we then leave Hirafu for Furano.

We are with a guided operation and will be doing Mont Yoti as well as other touring / slack country in the area.

So if you like the idea of touring etc then PM me as we could accommodate a couple of others in our group
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Pär is running a interesting possibility for those going north and looking for the powder.

https://parpowparadise.com/

http://www.niseko.com/people-opinion/paradise/

https://www.powderlife.com/files/Powderlife-Magazine-Issue-no-07.pdf



(the coolest guy on the Shiribetsu)
https://www.instagram.com/p/BiymGvDBWTc/?utm_source=ig_embed
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Looking a bit dry at the moment Sad though it is still early.

Niseko current snow profile and forecast for the next week seems to match the 14/15 season


The latest Japanese Meterological Agency's monthly temperature lookahead - fair to say the sentiment is not looking good - pray to the snow gods

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Season so far has been a disaster for Japan.

Warm, rain, no snow.
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Whitegold wrote:
Season so far has been a disaster for Japan.

Warm, rain, no snow.


The season is just about to start. How come it is already a disaster?
Your meds stopped working?
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@Whitegold, What? This is totally inaccurate... Puzzled

Niseko has had 176cm snowfall so far this season (going by the snowjapan.com reports). Furano has had 128cm.

Looking at the records from previous seasons, it seems fairly normal.

Mid-Honshu (Nagano area etc) has been lacking snow so far - but the season doesn't usually take off this early.
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Whitegold wrote:
Season so far has been a disaster for Japan.

Warm, rain, no snow.


You are tiresome.

The evidence



https://360niseko.com/niseko-snow-report-7-december-2019/
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The middle part of Niseko mountain was closed today due to lack of snow.

It looks like the last significant snowfall was 10 days ago, and it rained heavily last night. Sad

I wonder how unusual this is? The forecast does look a lot better for the remainder of December.
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Looks like a very poor start to the season so far. Mike's photo evidence from 8th Dec could be countered by some depressing looking webcam photos today. Unfortunately the cumulative snowfall totals mean very little when a big wave of rain rolls in and wipes much of it out. My experience is a few years old, but generally by now you'd expect a deeper base and more regular snow.

However, the good news for Japan is that it doesn't take much for things to turn around, very quickly. The forecast looks much better from now.

The sassa will take a bit longer to be buried this winter, which can make picking lines through the trees a bit interesting. It'll happen soon enough though.


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My first, and like most people my bucket list trip, to Niseko is booked arriving 4th Jan, as usual I seem to be a curse snow wise.

Should I be having sleepless nights wondering if I am going to turn up at the powder capital to no powder??
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Well it's certainly gone a bit funky in the past 10 days 8(

But as mentioned above it can turn on a sixpence. Both ways.

I'm planning on flying in on the 29th or 30th.

It'll be smiles for miles from then onwards Smile
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@Mike Pow, you always seem to time it very nicely, so I'm sure your luck will continue!

@scoman, as long has Mike has arrived, you'll be golden. Sleep well!
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@scoman, I'm no expert, but I was there last year. Looking at snow forecast is quite a good way for judging if it's going to snow, and if it's going to be cold enough. The numbers seem relatively arbitrary and most of the times underestimates the snowfall. Looks like snow for five out of the six forecast days and cold enough.
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I've been using this website that seems to have historic snowfall data available. Unfortunately lacks historic temperatures - https://www.snowjapan.com/japan-daily-snow-weather-reports/Niseko-Now

As well as the Japanese Meteorological Agency:
https://www.jma.go.jp/en/longfcst/000_1_10.html

Sentiment remains as early in the season, warmer than average and dryer than average this winter.

With flights and accommodation booked no point worrying to much about something not in our control.
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Thanks for the replies. "The numbers seem relatively arbitrary and most of the times underestimates the snowfall" sounds like info other regulars to Niseko have said to me so fingers crossed. Also snowfall can be localised, as we have transport will travel to best conditions.

I was looking at historical snowfall last night but cannot find the website whilst at work, will post later. Snowfall didn't look "too" bad compared to recent years though doesn't take into account the rain affected loss.

Liking MagSeven theory, on that basis I will rest easy.

Read a post from Niseko resort saying long term forecast for end of December and Jan is looking good, fingers crossed.
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Just have som fun:

https://www.yr.no/place/Japan/Hokkaido/Hirafu/long.html

https://www.meteoblue.com/en/weather/14-days/hirafu_japan_2130073

https://www.snow-forecast.com/resorts/Niseko/6day/bot

https://www.accuweather.com/en/jp/niseko-cho/217815/december-weather/217815

or insert your skiresort.

Toofy Grin

But it looks better up north - my place not that good yet.

https://www.meteoblue.com/en/weather/14-days/shiga-k%c5%8dgen_japan_1852552

https://www.meteoblue.com/en/weather-maps/shiga-k%c5%8dgen_japan_1852552?variable=precipitation3h_cloudcover_pressure&level=surface&lines=none&mapcenter=36.7000N138.5000&zoom=6

Sad
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Sapporo: -5C at 16:00. ice & snow on the city's streets, people slipping, cars sliding. About 5cm overnight
I skied Teine yesterday....another metre or two would be welcome. Olympic pride(?) means only natural snow on T.....I wonder when they will start making it. Icy bumps on the right side of the Ladies GS course (left side closed, no snow) made the tour groups up from Tokyo very unhappy. There was some powder up on top and the kids had fun under the lift until they had to negotiate a stream at the bottom of the run.....the lifties quite rightly turned their backs to them!
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There's a reason I spend so much time at Kiroro.

In a poor winter here's what the groomers look like after one dump

https://www.instagram.com/p/B6SWdEelarkilOMbzzXYyPCLzy-E41ImasLids0/


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@Mike Pow, link didn’t work? Hoping for a Feb trip...
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@Mike Pow, link didn’t work? Hoping for a Feb trip...


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FFS

It was deep Smile

In the meantime here's a Friday Flashback to 2017

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bc8NJe8HRma/
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Given the lack of snow today's conditions on Mt Isola and East Mtn Rusutsu were very good. Pisteurs have done a great job.
10cm on top of hard pack.
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The updated JMA monthly forecasts are looking more positive for Hokkaido after a slow start this December.

Not looking so great for Honshu.



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@musehead, Thanks for the updates. Skied Kiroro yesterday. Reasonabe cover, like Rusutsu the pisteurs have been doing a good job. Was glad I had my rock-hoppers as the runs from Asari Peak were scratchy. There was powder to be found however, at times shin high, and the sides of the main runs were fun. Ski Patrol working hard too stopping people without off-piste equipment from entering the gate at Asari Peak.
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Back to Rusutsu today with much improved conditions, so much that the car park was full of Niseko vans and many of the people I shared lifts with had come to escape the Hirafu crowds. The extra 20cm in places allowed more traffic in the trees. No lift lines.
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Makkari- onsen will be packed in the late afternoon. Confused
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Fortunately I go straight through Kimobetsu and head for Nakayama Pass......and then one of Sapporo's onsen wink
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Happy New Year

Big change overnight.

It was knee deep with face shots at Kiroro today.

Good storm cycle in play with low temps and plenty of snow forecast over the coming week.

Cracking first day.
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Looks like it was the first big snowfall of the season in Hokkaido yesterday/today, and temperatures remaining well below 0C.

Kiroro: 40-50cm
Rusutsu: 40cm
Sapporo Kokusai: 40cm
Sapporo Teine: 10cm
Furano: 40cm

Interesting the large difference between Kokusai and Teine. The distance between them in a straight line is only 10km.
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yup, Teine is facing Ishikari on the Japan Sea and receives a lot of wind from there......Kokusai is more inland
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Hey, anyone know how northern Honshu (Akita/Tohoku sort of area) are looking atm?
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