![](templates/subSilver/images/full_size.gif) Poster: A snowHead
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Looking for some advice from those that have been before me. Youngest is outgrowing his old skis Volkl Racetigers 130's (I know they are toy racetigers & not the real thing) but he loves them so much that he wanted to keep them one last season last year.
Now he is 155cm tall I feel they are to short for him & he has said he wants something more able to go off the side more but also be able to ski with me on the piste, so I am thinking all mountain but happy to be corrected.
He's fairly capable on piste but I have zero knowledge about off piste skiing, If I am off piste then I have had a crash...……. He is 155 tall, 56Kg in weight & fairly strong for a 12/13 year old. what would people suggest?
I was thinking black crows Junius, am I way off track with them? also are 150 the right size? it would be good to get 2 years out of them.
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Volki Gotoma Juniors really good skis and great for buzzing all over the mountain , do your research . I’m about to but my daughters up for sale and a good price . I Will let you know the size if your interested later today .
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@Jonny996, Are you sure? My teenage boys grew massively between 13-17 which would have meant new skis and more importantly, boots every season for 4 years. OK we could pass them down the line. But seeing as Intersport are doing boots, helmets and skis from €102 per week and you can change them if you're not happy, why would you bother? Oh and factor in €45 each way ski carriage too.
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@panaga52, thanks but we have a place out there so no transport & he skis about 3 weeks + 2 weekends per season.
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@jonny996. Is there life left in the 130 volkls and do you have plans for them? I am looking for a pair of 130 skis for son to train on dry slope. Hence no need for new skis! Many thanks
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@Jonny996, Think I sold you the race tigers!
My son went straight on to a pair of Salomon QST 82 (which are now needing replaced)but as I have probably mentioned before he did have a massive, massive growth spurt over a year.
Keep in mind they may grow quickly at that age.
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@muppet, that's correct & thanks but those where the 160's that the older boy used & youngster has his eye on them for piste skiing but he also wants something to use off the side more & those race tigers are far to slim for that.
It is also going to be a Christmas present as I can't think of anything else to get him, good to read that people think 160 is not to long for double rocker, I think I will look for something around 80-85 wide & 160ish long
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Ha ha, @Jonny996, I saw the headline and your name and was going to post that we picked up the girls - 12.5yr old at the time - some second hand skis at https://shop-skiclinic.fr/?lang=en. They are very happy with them as were our ski instructors friends when they spotted them on the slopes. But then saw that the thread very quickly went all speccy and I was struggling to even remember the brand, let alone any other info! Good luck. I think the girls are going to get Leki poles this Xmas for similar reasons. Need to go and work out how to get the best value, as we always have to buy 2 sets of the same size and have no-one to pass down to!
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@Cheesie168, I'll check that link out, thanks as I am certainly open to saving some money, as people say they grow fast. We are getting to the point where we have a stash of skis in cave to chose from but it's always good to have a "go to" set.
Trust me your not missing much not having the pass down option, the smaller one always lets you know they get nothing EVER
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@Jonny996,
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It is also going to be a Christmas present as I can't think of anything else to get him, good to read that people think 160 is not to long for double rocker
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my kids were on 162s and 96mm waist (Rossi Saffron 7) with double rocker when they were <50kg and ~150-155cm. No problem.
My daughter is 15 in December and athletic (~162cm and about 50kg), she think she's grown out of them but honestly she'll still float like a boat on them.
They are just up the road from you in a cave and in very good nick. I'd offer them to you but while my son didn't kick up a fuss your's may not like the graphics (plain white with a couple of pink flowers!)
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I think I will look for something around 80-85 wide & 160ish long
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Think that is sound TBH. My son is on something 172cm, stiff and 89mm wide - actually a better balance for him than the Saffron 7's because they are more demanding/rewarding on piste while still being fine when its soft (we spend more time off piste than on.)
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@jedster, thanks for the offer but even thou we are in 2019 there is no way he'd ski them all be it a perfect ski for him
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quick up date for anyone searching in the future. I ended up going for Black Crows Magnis in 157 length. got them with Solomon Z10 bindings for £197 delivered.
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![](templates/subSilver/images/full_size.gif) Poster: A snowHead
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I'm sure he will love them!
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@Jonny996, let us know how he gets on. My 11 year old son will probably be looking for something similar next year, though he has some K2 shreditor 85s in 149 and some Atomic Bent Chetler in 155ish (90mm under foot) I picked up a while ago. Still, it’s fun buying skis
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@Themasterpiece, update for you, he loved them, he has jumping off the side with no issues at all & on piste was carving away "best present ever" quote summed it up for me.
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