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Portes du Soleil - Avoriaz/Morzine/Les Gets/Chatel etc - 19/20

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@DJL, +1!!!!
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Coffee and Cake at Les Aiguillettes at Col de Braitaz. Best in the PDS and a great view from the terrace if sunny (and a good reason to go inside if foul).
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The construction of the new Morclan lift seems to be going well. The top station is now built and and many pylons are set which can be seen on the following webcam link. I am also looking forward to seeing the run that will be built in the open area under the chair to take skiers directly back to the Super Chatel area which should be be a good upgrade to this sector. The slow 3-person Conche chair is due for replacement next summer and is planned to take skiers further up the mountain and will provide direct access to the Chalet-Neuf sector.

http://m.webcam-hd.com/chatel/chatel_morclan/chatel_morclan1
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Pointes des mossettes this morning....not particularly early, or useful, but nice to see nonetheless.

Screenshot-2019-10-07-at-09-16-15

Potential for things to get more interesting on Wednesday though....here's the latest model guesstimates for Avoriaz:

GFS 21cm to 2000m approx

WRF 28cm, mostly at 1900m, but a few flakes possible to 1600m

ECM 15cm to 2100m

Will add a few more in when the short term models like Arome and Arpege update later
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Just got a letter through from Chatel Skipass to say that the 4V and Altesch passes can now be collected Tues-Thurs from the Lac De Vonnes lift pass office for those who purchased their PdS season pass through the Chatel portal. You need to take along your confirmation e-mail and hands free passes.
This is where they scored over SERMA in previous years, as SERMA do not open up till December.
So if there's snow in Verbier in November you can't get you pass from SERMA, but you can from Chatel.
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@WindOfChange, Thanks for the heads up. do you know if these free additional passes apply for the April early bird €495 offer?
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As Far as I know, it applies to all season PdS passes.
We ought ours in the March 30th Offer for €499 (Was that called April early bird?).
We got one of the teenager ones 2 weeks ago before the price went up from 380 - 465.
Interestingly enough, as that was bought recently, they put the free passes in the envelope with the hands free card for that one.
It's only for the ones purchased way back when that we need to collect.
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@WindOfChange, I called it early bird but I think it was actually a limited pre-release. I am hoping to get to Chatel in November and will collect the passes then. Just been googling Aletsch and its a 2 hour drive from Chatel but looks good for a special day trip on a sunny spring day as quite high but looks exposed.
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@Ozboy, Took us just under 2h to Riederalp, but you can enter via Morel, which is about 15 mins nearer. We stayed up on the top in the Jungfrau hotel in Fiescheralp overnight, and had from 11-5 the first day and from 9-4 the second. It was a great weekend.
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looking at the amara webcam. Theres a big cliff/rock face as you look down the valley. Does anyone know if that gets multi pitched?
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Just got booked for 22-26 Jan in between Chapelle and Chatel with large group of mostly int/adv folk. BUT we have a beginner with us. Hopefully pre and on trip lessons will help. However i foresee an issue - looks like plenty of suitable terrain around Chapelle/Super Chatel and Linga but when the rest of us want to head over the top to Lindarts and onwards, (or beyond Morgins on the Swiss side) it looks like you have to tackle a red to get home ie back down to Morgins/more likely from top of Chaux Flurie to Plaine Dranse. Appreciate it will depend on what level/confidence they get too but any top tips on easiest route back or is it best not to tempt them to try! Thanks
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ah ha newer piste map shows a blue down - still welcome advise on how scary to a newbie that blue is!
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@dgschof, The first 100 meters from the top of the Chaux F lift until the blue splits to the right and the red to the left can be a bid intimidating, crowded and sometimes with bumps. The blue thereafter is fairly gentle until the last bit into plaine dranse where it becomes a narrow track/road but you can safely snow plough that bit.
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@dgschof, perhaps the best bet is for them to take a lesson or two when they first arrive out of Pre La Joux so they can become orientated with slopes to their ability. There is also a very nice long green (and/or a easy red that will get them down from Plain Dranse - the top or the red is steep but can be joined from the green 1/3 down. Our 4yo is able to ski to Lunderets and back from PLJ.
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This is one for the PdS locals/experts.

I've noticed it is cheaper to buy a PdS ski pass in Euros from the French based resorts vs Champery/Morgins etc in CHF. Is there anything preventing you from buying the PdS pass from a French ski resort online and starting the week from a Swiss resort?

By prevent I mean - the pass needs to be validated (first lift use) in a french resort etc.
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@extremerob, Our 2019/2020 season passes bought online from Chatel state that the first use must be from a French resort.
In the same way that the 1st use of a pass you have to go through a specific turnstile ( so you get photographed ), the other turnstiles do not work. It's pretty easy to enforce as it's not a massive ball-ache ( if its not too busy ) to go across to the adjacent turnstile.
It would take a real d1ck of a liftie not to let you through and tell you to drive round to France. Depending on how much you stand to save, you could just buy the cheapest 5 hour lift ticket from CH, ski across to France and then use the other one ( though that might wipe out your cash saving Smile )
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@extremerob, Our 2019/2020 season passes bought online from Chatel state that the first use must be from a French resort.
In the same way that the 1st use of a pass you have to go through a specific turnstile ( so you get photographed ), the other turnstiles do not work. It's pretty easy to enforce as it's not a massive ball-ache ( if its not too busy ) to go across to the adjacent turnstile.
It would take a real d1ck of a liftie not to let you through and tell you to drive round to France. Depending on how much you stand to save, you could just buy the cheapest 5 hour lift ticket from CH, ski across to France and then use the other one ( though that might wipe out your cash saving Smile )


Yep I can see that text about the must be used on the french side on the Chatel website - but didn't see it on the Les Gets or Morzine website.

That being said dug a little deeper and it is the t&c's of the lift company:

Quote:
L’usager devra faire sa première montée sur le secteur français pour les forfaits Portes du Soleil.


Well the saving per person is probably not worth the hassle/stress. - thanks for pointing it @WindOfChange
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@extremerob, reasonably sure you have to start in the country of purchase to prevent this very shenanigan.
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Thanks @bergenbergen & @ozboy much appreciated. For the short trippers (sadly no season pass on horizon this side of retirement) I notice the good deals on sat or sat/sun on the local area websites. Will see if they might save us some money.
Love the research and booking bargains...now the wait :-/
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@dgschof, the Espace Liberté pass (Chatel, Torgon, La Chapelle) is great value and includes a vast area which is not well proportionally presented on the piste map. As such it is generally quiet and rustic due to lifts are older or drags. There is plenty to keep an group busy for a couple of days and good restaurants. You could start at Super Chatel where your beginner friends will be very happy. Enjoy!

https://www.chatel.com/medias/images/info_pages/espace-liberte-2018-2019-v5-avec-logo-chatel-bd-10224.pdf
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