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It sounds like the right design but at $140 they are optimistic it wont be high quality such as top brands like Osprey Ortovox Dueter
The lower bulky part of a pack is what pushes you too far forward on a chair not the upper pack area .
Then before everyone is ready the over anxious will pull the bar down hard on your head as your sitting too far forward .
Every year I hold the bar up by hand as the box heads try to force it down until Im all set as a board has me initially siting slightly sideways
It also addresses spare goggles getting crushed as you can safely top load them or put in the side pockets sideways with the lens facing inwards .
The pack may have other issues but the above seems about right generally the next version will address some issue or other .
A lift pack probably doesnt need such a optimal back fit such as Osprey packs with two back lenght sizes .
Neck size in the upper strap width is a point to check with jackets and layers
Hiking and/or ski touring with weight in a larger size pack is a different matter
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| AndreSilva wrote: |
Hi guys!
I was about to buy a Ortovox Freerider when I found this online: http://www.liftrider.me/
Did anyone here tried it ? I got very tempted because it have everything I need.
I'm not gonna use this backpack to cross country ski or hiking, so the fact that it does not have ski carriers is no problem.
The most important thing for me is that a backpack should have enough space and that I don't need to take it out of the chairlift, and this one does exactly that, the upper compartment that is "crush free" is genius.
What do you guys think ? Should I give it a try ? Do you know any other brand that does something like this, focused for on piste skiing ? |
It doesn't look too bad and if it meets what you are looking for and you are happy to pay the price/shipping charges, go for it.
The search for the perfect backpack takes more than than one step!
An ortovox or evoc might be an equally slim and cheaper option, however it might not have all the whizzits the kickstarter thing has.
With crowdsourced items, be patient as they won't be mass produced, but bespoke. This means the feeedback loop is quicker, yet the amount of people having issues and giving feedback is less
E2A, only critique of the liftrider is no straps to cinch down the top pocket. if there are a few items in there, then the rolling about/noise could be an irritant
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Ortovox freerider hands down
Better material, straps (particularly waist) and back system than all others out there. Add that to the removable back protector and brilliant zip opening along with ski carrier what's not to like.
On sale at sportspursuit too atm. Don't get smaller than the 18l.
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Thanks for the reply guys, it really amazes me how every time I ask something, people answer in no time 
| Tirol 164 wrote: |
It sounds like the right design but at $140 they are optimistic it wont be high quality such as top brands like Osprey Ortovox Dueter
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The pack may have other issues but the above seems about right generally the next version will address some issue or other . |
Yeah, the 140 is quite steep compared to other backpacks with a quality history.
| SBP wrote: |
It doesn't look too bad and if it meets what you are looking for and you are happy to pay the price/shipping charges, go for it.
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With crowdsourced items, be patient as they won't be mass produced, but bespoke. This means the feeedback loop is quicker, yet the amount of people having issues and giving feedback is less |
That is one of my main concerns: Shipping/Customs fees, besides I am always afraid of "new" kickstarter projects for the same reasons you mentioned.
| PaulC1984 wrote: |
Ortovox freerider hands down
Better material, straps (particularly waist) and back system than all others out there. Add that to the removable back protector and brilliant zip opening along with ski carrier what's not to like.
On sale at sportspursuit too atm. Don't get smaller than the 18l. |
Indeed I liked the Ortovox Freerider amongst all others. I thought about going for the 16 liters, do you think it's too small ? I really don't want to take it out in the chairlifts.
I am 1.78m tall, do you think that the 18 liters long will be too long for me ?
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I have had the 16, 18 and 26l
26l pushes you forward on chairlifts so if you don't need the space avoid
16l was spot on for me just skiing on my own for a mid layer, snacks camera etc. Great on lifts you don't even notice it
18l I have now as I carry my own and my son's bits. It's by no means too big for chairs only time you notice it is on the old small 2 person chairs where the are seats less generous but I certainly don't take it off. When skiing its like it's not there. Oh and the hip belt is great for childs snot rag!
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I have ortovox powder 16 or 18? as said you wont know its on your back
I top load it best as I can its the right design but is minimal volume .
It has to be otherwise any larger you will fill it with junk
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If you're staying on piste then any old back pack will do, preferably with waist and chest straps. No need to pay (way) over the odds for ski specific Ortovox/Dakine/whatever. They are all completely over-speked for what sounds like your needs. Also, all the gear etc etc...
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| Dr John wrote: |
| If you're staying on piste then any old back pack will do, preferably with waist and chest straps. No need to pay (way) over the odds for ski specific Ortovox/Dakine/whatever. They are all completely over-speked for what sounds like your needs. Also, all the gear etc etc... |
I would agree that you don’t need a ski specific backpack but would highly recommend that you get a ‘clean’ one without any external open pockets (especially mesh ones). Also avoid any open/ventilating mesh straps/back panels as they pickup and hold snow/ice and is a PITA to remove.
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Today I had the opportunity to try a Ortovox Freerider 24.
I was surprised how thin it was! I expected anything above 20 liters to be very bulky.
I could not find a 16 to try, but if the 24 is that thin already, maybe the 16 wil be too small 
I guess a 20 would be perfect, but apparently every freerider between 16 and 24 is either long or short, I am 1.78m and the "normal" height is the one for me.
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You know it makes sense.
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@AndreSilva, 16l is fine for one person but if you have a child go for 18l plus
They are indeed very slim/sit close to your back and thats great.
In terms of back lengths the free riders have a short, standard and large. Check out the ortovox website, it'll tell you which to go for.
If you happen to do any climbing you could also grab the Ortovox Trad 25 which is equally superb. I confess to having a number of their packs (for good reason!)
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Dakine do a nice range of mid-sized rucksacks (~20L or so). They're pretty reasonable value too and popular so picking one up second-hand shouldn't be too difficult.
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@AndreSilva,
Dakine Poacher 14 . . .IMHO without question, the best inbounds day pack for general skiiing (and I've been through a few).
Comfy, low profile, minimal snagging points means you can forget about it on lifts- mine has the spine protector (extra) and also takes a water bladder (has an insulated, zipped tube pocket on the strap which stops freezing) Fits very snuggly to the body and you dont really know your wearing it . . .
I carry a synthetic midlayer (nano air hoody), beanie, sunglasses, spare low light goggles, spare gloves, ski tools, agent ski lock, wallet, chocolate bar no probs . . .I also clip my helmet to it at the end of the day (walking through resort) but it will also carry skis / board diagonally if required. Great bit of kit . . .
https://www.dakine.com/en-us/bags/backpacks/snow-backpacks/poacher-14l-backpack/
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I have an X-Over waterproof backpack I bought in a bike shop. Very low profile and the way the straps cross over at the front makes it comfortable to wear all day. It's also very easy to swing around to the front to get stuff out, or if you need to to get on a chairlift if you are carrying lots.
https://deineschultasche.de/x-over-rucksack/
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Anyone tried Osprey Kamber 16??
Dakine Poacher 14L it seems really nice for resort skiing. Will have enough room for avalanche safety equipment, skins, hidration system, etc.?
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I use an Osprey Koda 22. There are a fair few 'too cool' anti backpack crew on here. My take is that since the advent shell technology (layering) a backpack is the ideal storage facility. Mid layer off and in pack as the morning warms up, mid layer and more back on as the afternoon chill sets in. Perfect. No unsightly unzipped flapping jackets trying to dump heat in the middle of the day. 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Picked up a 2nd hand Dakine Heli 12L. (I say it was second hand, had been used for 1 trip).
Loved it. Loads of pockets. Still reasonably slim enough so it didn't feel big and bulky.
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Loved it. Loads of pockets. Still reasonably slim enough so it didn't feel big and bulky.
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Personally I never use a rucksack while skiing unless off piste and then I'm into mountaineering mentality. For climbing rucksacks you want as few pockets as possible.
I have two sacks, both Deuter, an 18l one for day climbs (holds shoes, waterproof, rack, harness, water and a spare jumber - rope goes with partner) and a 30l one for trips that need a night or two in huts. The ice axe loops can also take walking sticks
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I smell spam. 1st post with link to unknown product.
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I'm a long time user of a Dakine Helipak which is perfect for resort skiing. It's a little small for touring so I've just got an Ortovox Ascent 32 which is a great little pack, sub 1kg and enough volume for touring or UK mountain walking.
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For anyone who things they'll want an avi pack in the future but initially just want a 'pack only' then the Scott Patrol E1 packs (22L, 30L & 40L) can't be beaten and the avi system can then be added later.
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