 Poster: A snowHead
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Good news!
New smoking ban in Austria will come into force from 1st November, everywhere apart from beer gardens.
I think a lot of people will be pleased about this. FPÖ not, but wurst 
https://www.vol.at/nationalrat-rauchverbot-in-gastronomie-ab-november-fix/6270778
From Google Translate:
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| This will prohibit smoking in all public places where food and drinks are manufactured, processed, administered or consumed. It also includes meetings in parish halls and firefighters, marquees, multipurpose spaces, as well as educational facilities and open spaces, where children and adolescents are supervised and hosted (e.g., boarding schools). The ban also applies to shishas and e-cigarettes. |
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@clarky999, Good news......... I wonder if a terrace overlooking the mountain is classed as a beer garden?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Woohoo!
@Markymark29, Yeah, that's what I was wondering. It's almost as bad sitting outside at a restaurant when someone at the next table is smoking as it is inside. At least smoky bars should be a thing of the past.
I hope it also has the secondary effect of reducing smoking in the population overall. It is much more prevalent in Austria than in the UK, and I think that's probably due to the reduction following the smoking ban.
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@Markymark29, yep!
They say Gastgarten oder ähnliches - guest garden or similar - so I assume smoking will be permitted on terraces like that.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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I would assume this is based on the FPÖ not going back into Government after the next election, they are suggesting smokers vote for them in the election in the autumn.
Smoking outside seems pretty general, even the UK allows smoking outside pubs.
The article mentions that smoking would be banned in "Festzelte", which I guess would cover tents of any size eg the various covered "ice bars" and similar dotted around the pistes.
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Great news!
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Its like Germany.
Smoking is banned at Oktoberfest in all Festzelte but its OK in the Biergartens round the Tents.
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Yay, not before time.
Sitting outside bars/ restaurants isn't really a good tactic for those who wish to breathe in most parts of the world still.
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@clarky999, it’s great news, though there’s a perverse part of me that will almost miss the nostalgic time warp feel of heading into a smoke filled bar (though not for long). Some of the ones in Vienna in particular are crazy.
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Excellent! This is the main reason we've not tried Austria. I'll have to see what we've been missing. (Although I already have two holidays planned in 2020 so it'll probably have to wait until 2021)
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Good news.
We stopped at a gas station in Lienz (southern Austria) a few months back.
It had a smoking room. The place smelt like a freakin' trashcan.
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I think this is terrible news!
Do you people not remember what it was like when the ban came in in Scotland, and then England? Without the mask of tobacco smoke you'll walk in to your favourite Austrian apres bar and smell the stale beer and sweat that's become embedded in the fabric of the building 
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You know it makes sense.
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Looking forward to smoke free bars in Austria from midnight tonight. 
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Poster: A snowHead
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@DB, I think I'll give them a week or two to clear out the smell, but yeah, it's about time  There's one I've been avoiding but looking forward to visiting. Apparently the view is pretty good.
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this is excellent news.
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@Scarlet,
Yes there are quite a few bars that friends from the ‚ski club wien’ and I wan‘t to try out in Vienna once the smoke clears. Temps were around zero last night so it was probably a cold shock for the smokers after midnight.
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| Whitegold wrote: |
Good news.
We stopped at a gas station in Lienz (southern Austria) a few months back.
It had a smoking room. The place smelt like a freakin' trashcan. |
Not dissimilar to airport smoking rooms, especially in Asia. I guess it is good for the smokers.. they don’t have to shell out for cigarettes; just walk into one of those rooms and breathe deeply. Foul!
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In the early hours of november when the smoking ban came into force, the police in Vienna checked around 250 public establishments. In only one place did the police find customers still smoking.
Two brothers in a football bar named Chelsea refused to put out their cigarettes so security called the police and they were arrested.
https://www.diepresse.com/5716115/rauchverbot-fuhrt-zu-erstem-polizeieinsatz-in-wien
The initial fine for ignoring the ban to establishments is up to €800. €1200 for a repeat offence and up to a maximum €10,000 for extreme cases.
It will be interesting to see how the establishments far from police access (e.g. mountain huts) deal with the smoking ban. Let's hope that by the time the ski season gets into full swing the smoking customers are used to going without or going outside.
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