 Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Free skiing? ... Depends on if the skis have been locked up?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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In racer parlance 'free skiing' is anything that doesn't involve gate training or specific exercises of any kind. Even if accompanied by the trainer, free skiing is just having fun, on or off piste - but mainly off piste, it's true.
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what about skiing wherever you want on a piste with 5 cm of fresh snow vs 'farming' the powder trying to match the previous skier's turns?
no preconceptions (well I'm not a huge fan of farming)...just curious.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Cedric, I'm all about skiing where you want 
If I wanted to turn where everyone else turned, I'd go to a mogul field.
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smolo, yoo hoo, I'm not alone!
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Free skiing is what the kids do when their lesson has finished. Unstructured, as PG says, no gates or specific exercises. Most importantly each skier chooses their own route and isn't following a leader.
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Jane L, is it defined as such in the dictionary? If it's an opinion we want some support for it! (such as PG's 'racer parlance'). What do adults do when their lessons finish?
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| smolo wrote: |
Cedric, I'm all about skiing where you want
If I wanted to turn where everyone else turned, I'd go to a mogul field. |
Yes, I agree Though farming doesn't involve skiing where someone else has (but just to one side) it certainly isn't very free, despite being off-piste. (BTW today was the first time I heard it called farming).
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Cedric, you poach my tracks and you will wish you were alone mate.
Farming is all about being nice to your buddies (and aesthetically pleasing...)
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AHAIcan tell, free skiing is a marketing term to sell more kit to people who don't know any better.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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There is no such thing as free skiing.
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Frosty the Snowman, there's certainly no such thing as a free lunch while skiing. 
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You know it makes sense.
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Farming is just saving some space and I'm ok with that.
Just because you are 'free skiing' which to me means go where you want, you still have an obligation to be considerate of
other people. This can be in the form of 'farming' if you like but it can also be things like don't cut the hill with skiers below etc, or in a recent case, a para glider wanted to launch of a cliff in Engelberg and therewas a guided party crossing the glacier underneath his rock band. His jump was going to empty snow over this group and he couldn't see below etc. He eventually aborted his launch for amongst other things, the snowfall onto the route below. I call that considerate becausee must have walked to that point and that would have taken him 30 mins minimum. He realised his action could endanger others as he didn't have his own spotter.
Anything that is considerate in the mountains, I'm all for. Anyone who glibbly quotes there are no friends on a powder day are, hopefully being just that, glib, otherwise that can be a big selfish act as well.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| Cedric wrote: |
| Jane L, is it defined as such in the dictionary? If it's an opinion we want some support for it! (such as PG's 'racer parlance'). What do adults do when their lessons finish? |
Generally head straight to the bar if memory serves me well! 
I would say (sadly I don't have the 'back up' that some of you want), that free-skiing is skiing what you want, when you want (with obvious courtesies to other skiers of course), but essentially as the concensus seems to be, not following or doing exercises/courses.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Free-skiing - this is when those idiots walk up the piste and avoid buying a lift pass 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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free skiing is when I'm not working, and usuallly on my own pleasing myself - whatever that is at the time. 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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For me, "free-skiing" is where someone lugs two pairs of skis up the hill past the first lifties and then ensure I only ski past them at the end of the day. No lift pass required - hence "free-skiing".
Not that I've ever done that ! snowbird couldnt carry the skis !!!
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I like the definition - anything that's not working, lessons, drills etc. Next question - what's freeriding? 70% offpiste 30% on like some ski marketeers would have it?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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I suspect it's a phrase that's been hijacked from the world of free-running or Parkour - a sport, pastime - call it what you will, that originated in France. The idea being to turn running and movement around your environment in to an art form. Amazing stuff to look at - though how it would work on skis.............
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In my opinion "free skiing" is skiing off-piste with style, and mixing in bits of freestyle (360s off windlips, jibs on fallen trees, etc.). Basically what everyone would like to be able to do, but what few people actually can do. I would say that screwing around on piste or in the park is not really "free skiing," and neither is simply survival skiing off-piste.
If you are just survival skiing off-piste, just getting down the slope is about all you can do. If you're good enough, though, you are "free" to do basically whatever you want - hit cliffs, do slashers, etc. If your descent is like a piece of performance art, then you're free skiing.
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Taking up Cedric's point, my skiing started with ploughing, after which I discovered farming.
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Im with ponder on this one. Freeskiing for me is making use of the natural terrain feature such as ripping up a spline, etc... Though when I've been doing gates the coaches just refer to not skiing in the gates as freeskiing. I guess I think of those crazy french guys doing free-running where they use the terrain (buildings etc) to entertain themselves
As far as 'farming' goes, so long as you don't go doing zorros right across the slope, why should you have to ski next to someones tracks? If you want to guaranteed freshies you should a) get up earlier b) get in the lift line earlier c) get some touring gear, go hiking and earn your turns d) be better so you can get to the stashes others can't e) know where the 'locals' stashes are f) go heliskiing.
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The question isn't about finding freshies but leaving them for others. This applies to finding those stashes you have to climb to as well. The next skiers may not arrive for a day or two and with the snow a little settled the old tracks will disrupt the snow even more.
However, as I already said, I don't think a slavish and robotic "farming" is required - just a considerate grouping of tracks on one part of the slope at a time. If you go up to do the slope again you may even benefit yourself.
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'Free Skiing' is when your boss buys your season pass. 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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