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19/20 Scott Patrol E1 AP 22/30/40 Supercapacitor Powered Electric Avalanche Airbag

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I first posted about the Scott packs containing Alpride's E1 supercapacitor powered avi bag in Sept 2018: https://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?p=3279584&highlight=scott++avalanche+backpack#3279584

These packs were the hot ticket last year and 99% of the production was sold by the time they arrived in the autumn and the last few packs were gone by Christmas. In fact demand was so high that none of the Scott staff managed to get one via their employee & family deal.

Last year the pack was only available in the 30 litre size. For 19/20 it is still available in the 30 but also in both 22 and 40 litre sizes. The packs are available either as a full system (ie the pack containing the E1 avi bag system) or a pack only (ie no E1 system). The internal E1 system is the same across all three pack sizes and can be swapped from one pack size to another. Note that you cannot buy the internal E1 system seperately. There is a chance that the internal E1 system will be available seperately in the future but if that happens it won't be until 20/21 at the earliest.

For 19/20 both the 30 litre pack and the E1 system is unchanged in both specification and price. However the pack now comes with an additional feature which is a stowable mesh helmet carrier so you're getting a bit more for your money.

The reason for this post is that what also hasn't changed from last season is the availability. I've ordered considerably more than last season for delivery in the autumn but I've already pre-sold all of my 22 and 40 sizes and two thirds of my 30's. I've just contacted Scott to see if I can increase my stock order and they are already completely sold out of all three sizes.

Ok, yes I sell these, but this is a genuine heads-up to snowHeads that these are again selling like hot cakes so if you fancy one you'll need to act quickly and hot foot it down to your local Scott dealer (wink) or you'll miss out like plenty of people did last season, many of them snowHeads. I've only got the 30 litre full system packs left so if you want a different size or a 30 litre pack only you'll have to find another Scott retailer that still has one.

For 19/20 the Alpride E1 system will also be available in a 26 litre (only) Black Diamond pack and it contains the exact same E1 system as in the Scott packs. Confusingly it's called the Jetforce Tour 26L which makes it sound like it contains Black Diamonds Jetforce battery operated pack but it is the E1 supercapacitor system. The Jetforce Tour 26 is actually available in two lengths: a S/M length which is 24 litres (2.53kg) and the M/L length which is the 26 litre capacity (2.63kg). Annoyingly they have not yet published the actual dimensions of each pack. The list price for the Jetforce Tour 26 in both lengths is £850 compared to £800 for the Scott 30 litre (2.67kg) version. I'm also offering the Black Diamond packs but as they're only offering the E1 in the 26 litre size it means that if you want something larger the only solution is the 30 or 40 litre Scott packs. The Black Diamond packs are also diagonal ski carry only whereas the Scott can carry skis both diagonally or vertically/A frame.


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@spyderjon, found my pack to be super easy to use, easy to charge and repack after testing. The helmet mesh was all that was missing (it was annoying when on my first taste of touring for helmet to be. Inning around). Can you buy them separately?
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@Bennyboy1, they're not shown separately in the price list but I've just email Scott to see if they can be ordered as a spare part and I'll let you know.
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@Bennyboy1, the helmet mesh will be available to purchase separately for the 20/21 season but it's not available this season.
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The Scott E1 packs are again selling like hot cakes. I've only got a few 30L ones left so if you need one you'd best be quick. AFAIK, all of the retailers are also now sold out of the 40L version but I've managed to score a few more 40L E1 full system packs and a couple of 40L E1 compatible 'packs only'. They arrive next week so if you want the larger pack for hut-to-hut stuff, either as the full avi system or as the pack only (into which you can install the E1 system) then you'll need to get a wiggle on.
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I was lucky to pick one of these up last season. Everything about it seems solid and well thought through, however, has anyone tried and tested A frame ski stowage and does it impinge the airbag opening....I know thats probably why it has the diagonal straps but thought I’d ask. And I know it can stow ‘A’ frame style...it’s just the impact on an opening airbag which concerns me. Thanks Cool
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spyderjon wrote:
Availability Update
The Scott E1 packs are again selling like hot cakes. I've only got a few 30L ones left so if you need one you'd best be quick. AFAIK, all of the retailers are also now sold out of the 40L version but I've managed to score a few more 40L E1 full system packs and a couple of 40L E1 compatible 'packs only'. They arrive next week so if you want the larger pack for hut-to-hut stuff, either as the full avi system or as the pack only (into which you can install the E1 system) then you'll need to get a wiggle on.


Apparently mine's just arrived (30L). I couldn't get a 40L through the usual family channels so yes, spyderjon's spot on and they're super popular!
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Ox wrote:
I was lucky to pick one of these up last season. Everything about it seems solid and well thought through, however, has anyone tried and tested A frame ski stowage and does it impinge the airbag opening....I know thats probably why it has the diagonal straps but thought I’d ask. And I know it can stow ‘A’ frame style...it’s just the impact on an opening airbag which concerns me. Thanks Cool

It's really a side/parallel carry facility as opposed to an A frame. I've only tried it once with my Altum 94's strapped to the pack and the bag deployed fine between me and the skis, although the skis do push the sides of the bag forward. Whether the bag deployment is effected is probably dependent upon the width of the skis and how the backpack is packed - however there's a lot of pressure inflating the bag so it will find a way. The bags are also damned tough but inflating up the side of sharp ski edges is another factor - although if I was boot packing and got caught in a slide I'd take my chances with that.

Anyway, why are you asking when you can simply test for yourself?
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Thanks for the info. Useful. I wasn’t too keen on cutting the bag with sharp edges..... thought I’d ask in case anyone else had tried and it was a big no no! Cool
Forgot to mention that BHX security did pull me to one side but I showed receipt, instructions and website. Had it all prepped and glad I did. Coming back fro Salzburg wasn’t a problem at all.
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To test it with the vertical carry I'd put some strips of duct tape over the ski edges just in case.
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Mmmmof course...should have thought of that. rolling eyes I’ll try it out and let you know with my Daemon 99mm.....
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Hi all, I think I've read somewhere that the 30L Scott E1 is 60cm in its longest dimension.

Has anyone had any hassle taking it on an aircraft as hand luggage, as I guess most airlines advertise 55 or 56cm as the limit?

Thanks,
Gav.
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Hi Gav,
I’ve just measured mine and whilst the contoured back gives it some rigidity, it can be coaxed to below the 56cm EasyJet limit very easily....it compresses like most other rucksacks so I guess the cabin-bag-police aren’t going to take much notice. I’ll let you know if I get any problems as I am flying to Innsbruck Friday Very Happy
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Interesting, thanks! Good luck Friday Smile
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