 Poster: A snowHead
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Just come back from a weeks skiing in new boots. All well and good, apart from some slight movement around the heel as the liners have compressed - it's nothing awful, but I'd like to make it a little more snug.
What I'm after is some sticky back foam/padding (or similar) that I can stick in strategic positions between the liner and boot-shell. Can anyone recommend something suitable that I can use? I can't for the life of me find anything.....
Cheers
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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jonflat2, it's probably not necessary to have your heel totally clamped down in your ski boots anyway.
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What boots are they?
What sort of insole do you have in them?
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Wear The Fox Hat, I've got a pair of "Salomon X-Wave 8 Free", plus some "Superfeet" insoles (I did ask about getting custom footbeds made up, but after assessing my feet the bootfitter said these weren't ideal as I have low arches). I've also got heel lifters in.
smolo, the brace sounds interesting. I had a scout around the internet, including the Nordica website, but couldn't seem to track them down ... any other details you've got would be great.
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the part smolo, is talking about is a heel frame from Nordica, they come in 4 sizes and are available from decent shops, alternatively speak to your local shop about boot fit foam most will rather fit it for you than sell you a sheet. i use a lot of leather for boot padding as it does not compress as much as foam, the secret is to get the right shaped pad in the right place.
what Wear The Fox Hat, says is fairly relevant as well, not so much the make /model of the boot but have you got a footbed in them, this will help to reduce motion in your foot and therefore stop movement, often i see people who feel that their foot is moving, and after fitting a proper footbed the movement goes completely.smolo, also makes a good point, i would not expect that ytou should have much sideways movement in the boot after only one week of skiing, it might suggest that the boot is either too big or the shell is the wrong shape (ie too wide in the heel pocket) for your foot. hope this helps a bit
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I got my boots tightened at my local shop in milton keynes. My boots are the right size and shell shape but i just have really narrow heel and achilles. they put some foam grips in the back and they feel great now. They were free too.
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smolo, Thanks - I'll take a trip down to my local S&R, and see if they have them.
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jonflat2, if you find some could you let me know where you got them as I could also do with some.
My problem stems from high arches and fairly wide feet. The problem is that my ankles are fairly slender in comparison so I can never get the boot tight enough around my ankle without it squeezing the rest of my foot and leg. Everywhere else is very snug and I don't get any left to right movement, just lifting, especially towards the end of a week when the lining has compressed further. It does seem to bounce back a bit though when the boots are not being used and by the next season it feels quite snug again.
For info. I also have Salomon X Wave 9.0
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hayley t, have you tried Tecnica boots?
I have narrow ankles, and my Icon Alu Comp boots came with shims, which allow me to have a very snug fit around the ankle, yet still leave room for my heel. (it does make the boots a bit difficult to get out of at the end of the day, but that's a small price to pay for a good fit)
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hayley t, will do....
Had a quick look in the S&R and Ellis Brigham catologues and couldn't see that they stocked them, so I have the feeling that they may be a little tricky to track down. But will keep you updated!
Any other suggestions though, would be gratefully received.....
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Wear The Fox Hat, No I haven't. I've only had my boots for a few seasons so I'm a bit reluctant to buy some new ones just yet. But when the time comes I will bear that in mind. My current boots are a pretty good fit everywhere else and are quite comfy. They are already a bit of a struggle to get on and off!
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You know it makes sense.
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jonflat2, I will have a google around. There is an independent shop where I live so I will pop in and ask them.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Guys,
I have very similar issues to what most of you are talking about. I have a wide front foot and a very slim ankle / heel, my feet are also quite flat and so volume reduction is often necessary for me. I got a new pair of Nordica Speed machines around Christmas and skied them for the first time in Saalbach a few weeks back – where incidentally I met hayley t – and yes she is really quite freaky so it doesn’t surprise me at all that she has odd feet too!!!!
I have the heel grips in my boots as pictured above. I chose these over the other potential solution that the shop tried – it was like a half sock thing that went over the liner and covered the back half or third of your foot and of course your ankle – it had laces so you could tighten it up. Basically it just reduced the volume around your heel ankle. I didn’t like it as I could feel the seam rubbing at the side and under foot. So back to the heel grip. They certainly reduce volume and hold your ankle stable but ….. on day 2 I was in UTTER agony as I was getting nerve type pain shooting up my left leg particularly – and really hurting like hell in my hip. It came on for about an hour and the pain really peaked on the way up a packed and long gondola ride. When I got to the top I was straight in to the loos, off with the boots and out came the heel grips which I was praying were causing the pain …. They were. Thinking about it I was in pain the whole time I skied with the grips in.
I was left skiing the rest of the week with slightly wobbly heels in otherwise perfect fitting boots. I don’t recommend the heel grips as they are too crude. I’m interested in some kind of foam packing or leather …..
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Poster: A snowHead
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Adamski, thanks very much! Shame I've already posted your CD!! 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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On a more serious note. Perhaps some padding similar to the stuff you can use in helmets is the answer, e.g. strips of foam with an adhesive backing.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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hayley t, excatly what I was thinking ... haven't been able to find anything suitable though...
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hayley t, Oh cheers for that - haven't got it yet but it may have come today - our post arrives around 11:00am at the earliest!
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jonflat2, hayley t, the best thing as i said earlier is 2.5 -3 mm leather stuck in place with contact glue is the best thing to use, it costs around £8-10 per sq foot, i have a shortage at the moment but will have some more in the next week or two, as also said earlier the most critical thing is to make sure that it is in the correct place so as not to trap the nerves and cause the problems that Adamski, was suffering
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CEM, Thanks for the tip.
An old ski book I have floating around the house advises positioning using a 'J' shaped piece of foam on the outside of the liner "in the void space that falls between the ankle and achilles tendon, and below the ankle bones". Seems to make sense to me...any thoughts?
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jonflat2, thats the one, i use a slection of pads either 'L' shaped 'C' shaped or 'J' shaped and customise them to suit the boot, the foot and the desired effect, generally (if i can use a term like that in bootfitting) the pad wants to sit where you say and to wrap around the back of the ankle bone, but beware of the nerves and vasuclar that run around these areas, trap a nerve or cut of the blood and you will know about it all too soon
regards
Colin
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CEM,
[quote/] the best thing as i said earlier is 2.5 -3 mm leather stuck in place with contact glue is the best thing to use, it costs around £8-10 per sq foot, i have a shortage at the moment but will have some more in the next week or two,
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If you could let me know that would be great. Am I correct in assuming you have a shop in Bicester? If so, it's easy for me to get there.
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hayley t, it's well worth going to see him, but make an appointment!
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