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Just got back for a trip to VT, not as slushy as I expected so switched my original fatter hire skis for something with more of an edge.
Elan Amphibo 84 Ti - Ski guy said there was a left and right, I didnt actualy listen to what he said about why as I assume these things are gimiky, and didnt think much of it, (great control etc as you should have on a ski of that level, but thought it may have had more to do with the difference to the much wider pair I was on before), until I got home and realised that I had zero aches and pains in legs and feet (which I usally do after a hard weeks skiing!)
Looked them up and there is some weird technology, again sounds gimiky, but makes sense and some good reviews.
Been meaning to get my own skis for several years now in end of season sales, but havent due to the usual reasons which people post about in this forum.
Anyone tried them / heard of them?!?!
From wikipedia - they have a strange backround - shodowy russian PE funded!
Input much appreciated before I before I bite the bullet! thanks in advance
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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My OH tried the Amphibio 16 Ti2, which is a straight piste ski rather than an all mountain, on a ski test early last season while looking for new skis. He only tried them while he was waiting for the Dynastars he actually wanted to try, and also assumed they were a gimmick. After a couple of runs he was hooked, and immediately went and bought some. He is still as pleased with them as he was on the day he got them......
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Thumbs up from me too. I tried some a couple of years back and really liked them - they were 88mm underfoot I think.
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Currently skiing some Ripstick 86’s which have this. Switched to them from Movement Icons (which were the worst skis I have ever skied - or else had a bad tune, who knows), and I absolutely love the Elans. No idea what the Amphibio part does but they are stable, quick edge to edge, happy to snowplow behind children or absolutely blast it down the Face. Taking them off piste for a lesson on Friday after the current snow so will report on off-post performance then, but so far very impressed.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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My race slalom Elans were Amphibios - no complaints (except my own abilities). Heard a lot of good reports over the years generally, and the idea's been around for a good while now, so not a pure gimmick, I guess.
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Thank you all for your responses! Realise now that I accidentally posted in wrong category!
This may sound like a stupid question - and / or I need to do a second post....
I’m female, 62kg, but 178cm - so I often end up with men’s skis as there is little around the 170-173cm which I prefer when I hire.
Should I be looking for a female specific ski if I’m actually buying - or actually if I’m very happy with a men’s set I’ve tried out (and am used to men’s skis) just get on with it?
(I probs just need to get on with it.....)
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@skiface, if you're happy with men's skis and their weight, and can ski them well, then ski them. The only difference for women's skis usually, as far as I know, is softer flex (except for race, etc), 'pretty' graphics and colours, lighter weights and the bindings being mounted a bit further forward (which you can effectively change yourself on most, anyway, if you find the need). Might be worth demoing a few women's skis just to compare them, though: especially if you are thinking of buying.
I skied unisex Elan skis for years, and ski men's Scotts and Rossis now (though both without Ti, more to do with carrying weight than actual skiing).
BTW, not sure how true it still is, but Elan used to size up short compared to other makes - I skied 152 when others would be 155-158 without tip rocker addition (I'm 165 tall, around your weight): but I also like short/SL length piste skis anyway. I have the opposite problem to you in that I often want a man's ski but they don't make them short enough.
P.S. if you like the Amphibios, check out their top of range Elan ladies skis - very highly rated by many (especially in US). Not sure on lengths, though
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Who cares if it is/isn't a gimmick? You skied them and you liked them. If you're looking to buy skis that experience should carry much more weight than any online review/other persons opinion.
Much the same with the men's/women's ski question. If it was the men's ski you skied and liked, why buy the women's skis and risk not liking it as much?
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Reporting back on off-piste performance as promised; the Ripsticks I’d hired were only 86 underfoot, but still coped pretty well in the new snow in Tignes yesterday. They predictably lacked a bit of float in the deep wind-blown stuff (or maybe lacked driver-skill more ) but were brilliant in shallower snow and the cut up areas. Also very easy to turn in tight spaces and couloirs.
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Reporting back on off-piste performance as promised; the Ripsticks I’d hired were only 86 underfoot, but still coped pretty well in the new snow in Tignes yesterday. They predictably lacked a bit of float in the deep wind-blown stuff (or maybe lacked driver-skill more ) but were brilliant in shallower snow and the cut up areas. Also very easy to turn in tight spaces and couloirs.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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My only concern with Amphibios (and any other asymmetrical, left-right sided ski) is that you'll end up having to service them more often.
When you trash an edge on a rock it's more often than not the inside edge of the downhill ski as that's the one with the most pressure on it. With symmetrical skis you can just swap them over so the trashed edge is on the uphill ski where it will make less difference and so get away with not servicing them for a few more days. With asymmetrical skis, if the trashed edge is the one you're relying on most you've really got no choice but to service them immediately. Annoying if you trash them on the first day after picking them up!
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Thanks @swoafs for the report - hope you had a fab time in the fresh snow!
I'm keeping an eye on the end of season sales - and try and pick up pair - if they come up it was obviously meant to be!
And if not will take @Grizzler advice and try out the female ones next season!
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