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Club Med moving to Saint-Gervais-les-Bains

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I read in another thread about Club Med closing down their Chamonix offering & morning to Saint Gervais but apart from 1 news article I cannot find anymore info.
Does anyone know anything about this?
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@Jonny996, Was the article in question published before noon?

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@nbt, afraid not days ago, it's not a fool
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https://www.chamonix.net/english/news/chamonix-club-med-closure-announced

https://www.planetchamonix.com/club-med-officially-signed-over/

https://www.lafoliedoucehotels.com/en/

https://www.ft.com/content/7f3769ca-2483-11e9-b329-c7e6ceb5ffdf
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Club med would like to set up a facility in St Gervais, which is in line with the towns development so the local council is doing all it can to assist.

Regarding the site that has been selected, the project is now very complicated to implement. The town will propose a new solution to enable Club Med to set up in the area. It is planned for about 1,000 beds and the jobs that go with it so a high benefit to the town and the area.
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@stgervais estate agent, 1,000 bed! that is huge for the town, there has to be more bars & restaurants opening to support those that venture out of the club med facility. Do you know where they are planning to develop?
Also do you know whats happening with the new hotel down by the tramway station as all summer it seemed to have came to a stop.
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the club med formula is that the guests stay in house so apart from impact ton the slopes during the daytime it is unlikely to have a huge direct impact on the town in the early years. As more people discover St Gervais thanks to Club Med , it will in due course have spin off on the town as people prefer that area . The original site has been blocked by a local family who are opposed and the town is proposing another option, however rate concept is "ski to the door" so Bettex area not in the village. If you take the example of the MMV it is a similar formula and i hear that is now changing hands

The developer of the 79 bedroom 4/5 star in the Maison Doubs has in theory found a company to take over although I do not know the timescale on this and am somewhat sceptical until I see it happen.
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Who is taking over the MMV out of interest? We stayed there a couple of times and it was good value.

I stayed in an alpine Club med resort in the summer and noticed they had a banner about a new Club Med hotel in La Rosiere (a pity that there is so much development there). Did not see anything about St Gervais.
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I had heard that the Club Med in StG was dependent on approval for a link between Les Houches and StG ski area - maybe a gondola up to LH from StG, a funicular or even a peak-to-peak cable car. Could equally be b0llocks though..
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@jma, if you are allowing a funicular then there is already a link with the TMB
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Not sure if anyone is set up to take over MMV as yet. Just heard that they are pulling out.

The link from St Gervais town to the St Gervais / Les Houches ski area is in place with the Tramway - it is quicker than driving round, and one of only 3 left in France. The compagnie du Mont Blanc have recently invested heavily in it and a new link from LHSG ski area to Evasion Mont Blanc seems unlikely. St G and Les Contamines needs linking up first and we are a long way from that due to the various issues locally. - Different investors however .
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@jma, if you are allowing a funicular then there is already a link with the TMB

@Jonny996, yes whilst technically you're correct, it's not exactly practical is it? What's more, if what I'd heard is true (granted, it's a big "IF") then I'm fairly sure that the Powers That Be within Club Med are already aware of the TMB and are expressing their dependency based on something more usable for skiers - and I'd expect some sort of tie-in with the passes is expected as well as currently only the MBU grants access to both LH & StG but you can't initiate the MBU for the EMB areas in StG so, again, not very practical.
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It defiantly seems like a town on the up but I like the way they are managing it & controlling it in a way that doesn't seem to be outstripping the towns ability to cope
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Club Med are looking to develop in St Gervais / Megeve , that is why they have pulled out of CHX. If local politics don't get in the way then it should happen , but there are people with vested interests to develop or to block development so there are a few problems to solve first.

The town has improved tremendously in the last 20 years with reasoned development and great investment in ski lifts, snow cannons, infrastructure etc The new bridge removing the through trafic and the heavy traffic has transformed the town centre , the investment in bars, restaurants is obvious and the fact there is a local population keeping the business open means it will continue . I ate with clients at BMB this lunchtime and they were turning people away after about 12.45h as they were full on a Tuesday lunchtime in Sept and the majority of tables were taken by locals, the rest by 2nd home owners and holidaymakers. There were another 6 restaurants and bars open in town, so not as though there was no other options. It is an example of what a popular and lively place St Gervais is and why so many people want to visit.


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St. G. is indeed a gem, hindered only by its ski area. (I kid, but only a little) The number of old drags, the lack of a link to Les C, and the somewhat inconvenient link to Megeve hold it back from true excellence, IMO. I personally don't see the appeal of Folie Douce and it seems a bit out of character. A Club Med might stretch the lift infrastructure past breaking point during school breaks, or, it could be the push to add some detachable six-packs...
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@jma Not really sure why you would want to buy a Mont Blanc Unlimited lift pass in St Gervais. It has been very interesting to see that since the Domaine Evasion area has been included on the Chamonix valley pass , whenever you take a chairlift or cable car in Domaine Evasion on a snowy day there are always "refugees" from the Chamonix valley who come to make the most of the great conditions, tree skiing, fresh powder, modern lifts and the much bigger area. and that is not including the extra 55 km of the Les Houches / St Gervais area.

People get very parochical I suppose so each to their own
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@stgervais estate agent, It's almost as if...you're trying to sell property in St. G... Very Happy

Actually, I'm a fan, agree that Evasion is probably better skiing for 95% of skiers than the Cham valley.
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I never understood why follie douce opened in StG/Megeve it’s not that sort of place & I cannot think of any major tour operators in the area. Perhaps they knew about the club med idea.
For all the time I have been going I have yet to ski any of the Chamonix areas, the faff of getting there just puts me off
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I went to St Gervais with the family this year and I too thought it was an absalute gem.
We were lucky enough to get an AirBnB right in the centre of the village...
50 metres from the best bar
25 metres to supermarket,
5 metres to cash machine
50 metres to Pizza
10 metres to Ski Bus.
It even had an underground garage with it .... but we didn't know till we got there.
I'd go back .. even in the summer.
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@DrLawn, it's great in the summer with beautiful walks but I would highly renting one with a pool as its hot
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@DrLawn - sounds like you stayed in the Haute Tour building ?


@Pasigal - the town/ski-ing , summer , access means St Gervais sells itself !


@Jonny996 - I ran hotels for "major tour operators" for 24 years in the Alps and one reason we decided to live in St Gervais is because there are none here and never have been. The price was also 1/2 that of Megeve where we were renting before but the main reason was the fact that it is a genuine town with 6 schools, a local population, plenty of activities going on and it does not close down between seasons. That and the easy access to other resorts across the whole of the Alps - I covered an area from Val d'sere to Valloire to Alpe d"Huez , to Briancon, to Chatel and needed access to Geneva and Lyon, (as well as to Italy for time off) and they are all a straight forward drive.

The infrastructure of small owner operated hotels is not what the Tour Operators are looking for and even when the new 79 room hotel opens, it may mean a 5 room allotment from some of the more upmarket companies, but as they will then need a rep for the handful of clients in resort, it will not justify either a rep or a transfer bus for the resort, I actually doubt that will happen. It is not the type of resort that works for tour operators big or small - which is what makes is such a great place to live. The independent travellers who have discovered St Gervais over the years and told their friends about it means that like minded people come and will continue to visit. The investment in the ski lifts, the hotels, the L'Oreal investment in the spa etc means it will just improve over the years and the lift pass companie's programme of upgrading the area was announced last year so it is just getting better and better. The Folie Douce being in St Gervais has meant that it has given a stepping stone to their extensions into Chamonix with a stand alone restaurant and now the hotel , so a well calculated move. There are still improvements to make with the Igloo and Chez le Tante for example and to ensure the lifts run at an optimum level, but it has been achieved elsewhere so no reason it will not happen here. Onwards and upwards
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