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@südtirolistdeutsch, did you try the shoulder or the west side chutes? Not gated standard runs, but kind of fun
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| rogg wrote: |
| @südtirolistdeutsch, did you ski the Goat Eye Mountain? It's generally steeper than the rest of Sunshine, and less bowl like. |
I did. I should've clarified in my post that I was reviewing the two from the eye of an intermediate groomer, not advanced off-piste 
FWIW, I skied Lake Louise today, reminded me a lot of Saalbach. Everything is steeper, even the Greens got up to 25 degree pitch in certain spots! Much better vertical than Sunshine Village
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| Jonny Jones wrote: |
| @südtirolistdeutsch, food may be worse in Canada, but the beer is infinitely better over there since the microbrewery revolution transformed North American drinking habits. |
I'll have to disagree-nothing beats a Radler at the end of the day!
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| gryphea wrote: |
| @südtirolistdeutsch, did you try the shoulder or the west side chutes? Not gated standard runs, but kind of fun |
I'm not nearly good enough for either of those, hopefully one day!
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Radler is nice.
Regarding food in Canadian ski resorts, would anyone care to tell me the sorts of things you can get? What's the usual? Burger and chips, pizza and chips?
At the moment I am imagining one cafe on the hill like at Glencoe or Nevis which is packed and with queues for the toilet.
Must be better than that surely?
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| südtirolistdeutsch wrote: |
| rogg wrote: |
| @südtirolistdeutsch, did you ski the Goat Eye Mountain? It's generally steeper than the rest of Sunshine, and less bowl like. |
FWIW, I skied Lake Louise today, reminded me a lot of Saalbach. Everything is steeper, even the Greens got up to 25 degree pitch in certain spots! Much better vertical than Sunshine Village |
Gone up Summit Platter? That’s a good one 
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Regarding food in Canadian ski resorts, would anyone care to tell me the sorts of things you can get? What's the usual?
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Poutine or burgers in my experience.
Busyness? Depends on when you go, if it's not a powder day, the hills were empty compared to Europe.
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Regarding food in Canadian ski resorts, would anyone care to tell me the sorts of things you can get? What's the usual? Burger and chips, pizza and chips?
At the moment I am imagining one cafe on the hill like at Glencoe or Nevis which is packed and with queues for the toilet.
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Varies place to place. Lodge at the bottom with fast food (burgers, chips, chilli, poutine, soup, pizza) plus some kind of taco/hotdog/burger stand higher up somewhere is not unusual. Doesn't really get busy as resorts are pretty quiet and the food is cafeteria style fast food kind of thing so line gets moved quick. Some places have a more fine dining style sit down restaurant, but not always.
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@boarder2020, @gixxerniknik, well that sounds like it will suit me just fine. I'm not one for long lunches and sunbathing like you see a lot of in the Alps.
Is poutine good? Is it pretty cheap to get lunch compared to the Alps (which varies hugely I know) but let's say you can get a decent meal for €9-13 here in Tirol what sort of money for a decent lunch in Canada?
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| VolklAttivaS5 wrote: |
... Regarding food in Canadian ski resorts, would anyone care to tell me the sorts of things you can get? What's the usual? Burger and chips, pizza and chips?
At the moment I am imagining one cafe on the hill like at Glencoe or Nevis which is packed and with queues for the toilet.
Must be better than that surely? |
I have been to the Scottish places, and it's not a helpful comparison.
I've never seen a queue for the bathrooms (I'm male) in BC, and they're apparently universally well maintained.
Expect everywhere to have places to park your gloves and helmet etc.
Food-wise, it depends what you want and where you are. Places like Whistler you can take your pick, including Sushi. I've never eaten Poutine there, but they probably put it on for the tourists who are likely more familiar with it than the locals. It's easy to find "artisan" coffee and salads there for example. Smaller hills also have a fair amount of choice... Sun Peaks has at least one good small cafe with respectable food, in addition to self-serve. Revelstoke is smaller and more limited, although even there you can get reasonable coffee and pastries. Silver Star has an excellent cafe, plus a cafeteria if you like that sort of thing. In Lake Louise there's a brown bag area, some self-serve stuff, and then the Larch area has a cafe where the salads are excellent. Service is always good - you're not going to have trouble getting served etc.
Prices... it depends what you want to eat and how long you want to sit down for. Most stuff in BC is reasonably priced.
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Poutine is sinply the food of the gods. It may sound like chips cheese and gravy but it’s so much more than the sum of its parts!
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even the Greens got up to 25 degree pitch in certain spots! Much better vertical than Sunshine Village
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25 degrees - most blacks are not that steep. Harakiri, Mayrhofen is one of the worlds steepest pistes and it is 38 degrees the Grand Couloir in Courcheval is only 30 degrees. 25 degrees means you drop 466mm for a 1m forwards. ski forward 100m and you will have dropped almost 47m
I have skied Lake Louise but cannot recall these green pistes.
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You know it makes sense.
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Catering-wise I can only speak of Lake Louise/Sunshine. There are the usual canteens (which microwaves and packed lunch facilities) but also more upmarket table service options.
Obviously lots of meat, burgers, wings, steak etc but more Asian influences as well.
I like Mad Trappers Saloon at SV and at LL there’s Whitehorse bistro for restaurant style food. But everything is owned by the resort so you don’t get traditional alpine style huts and restaurants
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Poster: A snowHead
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Ok thanks all, good info on the food!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| südtirolistdeutsch wrote: |
| gryphea wrote: |
| @südtirolistdeutsch, did you try the shoulder or the west side chutes? Not gated standard runs, but kind of fun |
I'm not nearly good enough for either of those, hopefully one day! |
Is the shoulder under the old Tee-pee chair and round the corner a bit? A good little quiet corner of the resort I thought.
I did the South Chutes a couple of times, fair old hike to get up to them though. Are they the same as the West Chutes?
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Alberta is Prime Beef territory, and they were generous with it. After the last trip to LL/SV I thought I was going to come back with horns.
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@VolklAttivaS5, food on the hill in Canada will be humdrum: fries, burgers, hot dogs, chilli,etc. Off the hill, you can eat whatever you want in most resorts including some pretty high-end cooking. You'll struggle to find a vegetable, although salads are common enough, but meat is plentiful and varied including things we don't have in the UK like bison and elk.
For me, the problem is that the volume is always turned up on the flavours. Too much seasoning, sauces too rich, and sugar in all sorts of surprising places. And if you want good food, you tend to have to eat in somewhere quiet, respectable and posh. Cheap bars with a decent vibe tend only to serve burgers, pizza and pasta - all very pleasant but not for every night of the holiday. It's really quite hard to find an equivalent of the perfect Italian trattoria that combines perfect food with a great atmosphere.
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@Jonny Jones, good to know thanks
Is Whitewater worth going to? For skiing not food this time.
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| johnE wrote: |
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even the Greens got up to 25 degree pitch in certain spots! Much better vertical than Sunshine Village
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25 degrees - most blacks are not that steep. Harakiri, Mayrhofen is one of the worlds steepest pistes and it is 38 degrees the Grand Couloir in Courcheval is only 30 degrees. 25 degrees means you drop 466mm for a 1m forwards. ski forward 100m and you will have dropped almost 47m
I have skied Lake Louise but cannot recall these green pistes. |
All my numbers come from the App "Ski Tracks" that I use which records max slope angle per piste. Maybe it's wrong, but according to it the Green 109 that goes from Top of the World down the back bowl got up to 24 degrees. In comparison to Saalbach, it recorded a section of the Blue 65 turned red 61a from the Magic 6er as 26 degrees.
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| südtirolistdeutsch wrote: |
...Even the Greens got up to 25 degree pitch in certain spots! Much better vertical than Sunshine Village
[...] All my numbers come from the App "Ski Tracks" that I use which records max slope angle per piste. Maybe it's wrong ... |
(1) Sunshine has plenty of on-piste terrain which is too steep for most skiers.
"Freefall" is fairly accurately named and there are dozens of marked runs like that.
I've mixed feelings about Sunshine (because of Scurfield), but you're spreading incorrect information by suggesting it's flat.
That is manifest nonsense.
(2) There's nothing in Canadian run grading which guarantees the steepness of a particular run.
(3) Mobile phone clinos are notoriously inaccurate.
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VolklAttivaS5, hire car wise - I just pick up from the airport, uk booking as normal. But that's for our usual 18 day trip.
For 2 months too sure how I'd do it, without looking into it.
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@südtirolistdeutsch, OK, the app is rubbish, not you. These are pretty steep angles
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| philwig wrote: |
| südtirolistdeutsch wrote: |
...Even the Greens got up to 25 degree pitch in certain spots! Much better vertical than Sunshine Village
[...] All my numbers come from the App "Ski Tracks" that I use which records max slope angle per piste. Maybe it's wrong ... |
(1) Sunshine has plenty of on-piste terrain which is too steep for most skiers.
"Freefall" is fairly accurately named and there are dozens of marked runs like that.
I've mixed feelings about Sunshine (because of Scurfield), but you're spreading incorrect information by suggesting it's flat.
That is manifest nonsense.
(2) There's nothing in Canadian run grading which guarantees the steepness of a particular run. |
Not sure why you're quoting me, because I said none of those things. Nowhere did I say "Sunshine is flat", nor did I link Canadian run grading to steepness.
My generalization was that the greens and blues at Sunshine were flatter and easier than at Lake Louise.
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VolklAttivaS5, hire car wise - I just pick up from the airport, uk booking as normal. But that's for our usual 18 day trip.
For 2 months too sure how I'd do it, without looking into it. |
Yeah I'm wondering if I use the Rider Express (the Greyhound is no more in Western Canada so I've read) to get from Calgary to Banff to Revelstoke to Kicking Horse back to Banff again (depending on if I like it I might go back as I'm going past anyway) and back to Calgary staying in each place 1-2 weeks and then hire a car in Calgary to do Fernie Kimberley Whitewater and Red. That would significantly reduce the cost of car hire straight away saving the car for the resorts that are not very easy by bus. Fernie is bus friendly but I'd then have to go back to Calgary to get the car anyway and if I've already got the car then I can go straight to Kimberley after Fernie plus I'd be able to drive straight back to the airport to return it at the end.
I might need a bit longer than 2 months actually to fit all of that in.
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You know it makes sense.
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| johnE wrote: |
| @südtirolistdeutsch, OK, the app is rubbish, not you. These are pretty steep angles |
It might be. I'd love to know the actual slope angles of what I've skied.
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| VolklAttivaS5 wrote: |
| Bones wrote: |
VolklAttivaS5, hire car wise - I just pick up from the airport, uk booking as normal. But that's for our usual 18 day trip.
For 2 months too sure how I'd do it, without looking into it. |
Yeah I'm wondering if I use the Rider Express (the Greyhound is no more in Western Canada so I've read) to get from Calgary to Banff to Revelstoke to Kicking Horse back to Banff again (depending on if I like it I might go back as I'm going past anyway) and back to Calgary staying in each place 1-2 weeks and then hire a car in Calgary to do Fernie Kimberley Whitewater and Red. That would significantly reduce the cost of car hire straight away saving the car for the resorts that are not very easy by bus. Fernie is bus friendly but I'd then have to go back to Calgary to get the car anyway and if I've already got the car then I can go straight to Kimberley after Fernie plus I'd be able to drive straight back to the airport to return it at the end.
I might need a bit longer than 2 months actually to fit all of that in. |
Calgary to Banff use the Banff Airporter bus. Cheap easy comfy and on time. Delivers you to the door (we did the Greyhound from Revelstoke to Banff and ended up way out on the edge of town at a bus depot). Not sure but I reckon if you contacted them you could do the onward (Kicking Horse) leg with them too.
It's a shame the greyhound is gone, I quite liked meeting some more 'genuine' people not on the tourist busses.
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@rogg, ok thanks
Shall I skip Kimberley after Fernie or is it worth going to as it's so close (by Canadian standards)?
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| südtirolistdeutsch wrote: |
"Sunshine is flat" |
What?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| rogg wrote: |
It's a shame the greyhound is gone, I quite liked meeting some more 'genuine' people not on the tourist busses. |
People who decide to cut your head off while you are taking a nap?
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| VolklAttivaS5 wrote: |
@rogg, ok thanks
Shall I skip Kimberley after Fernie or is it worth going to as it's so close (by Canadian standards)? |
Kimberley isn't Fernie by any means but its got enough to merit a visit - either long bump runs or if you get some powder some great constant pitch trees. Wouldn't sacrifice Red, WH2O, Revy, KH or maybe even Castle for it though.
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VolklAttivaS5, We spent a day at Kimberley, last road trip, fun place, bit weird layout but very quiet mid week - although they do bus school kids up, for skiing rec. However they don't stray too far from the base 
Debating whether to go again next season or not.
Agreed DOTM, I wouldn't sacrifice for it either.
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Imo you could skip Kimberley and not be missing out on much, it's not terrible but the other places you are visiting are better.
I've never been to wh2o, but know a few guys that have. From what I've heard and seen inbounds is a little limited, slackcountry is really good though.
The other option you have is to fly Calgary to castlegar and go from there to red and wh2o. The downside to flying is quite a lot of flights get cancelled (it's not called cancelgar to nothing). Small planes and incredibly scenic flight though. Then from Nelson find a rideshare (poparide, kijiji) or hitch hike to fernie and then onto Calgary with the shuttle. Personally I would prefer that to a car which is not a whole lot of use in Rossland, and you can get by fine in Nelson without one too, unless you plan to ski backcountry a lot in which case it comes in handy for the likes of Kootenay pass.
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| südtirolistdeutsch wrote: |
"Sunshine is flat" |
What? |
Where did I say that?
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@Dave of the Marmottes, @boarder2020, @Bones, ok thanks.
1-2 days max will do in Kimberley then by the sounds of it?
Time wise I'm thinking 1 week Banff, 2 weeks Revelstoke, 2 weeks Kicking Horse,
1 week Banff (if want to go back as I go past on bus anyway). Get the car from Calgary. Fernie 2 weeks, Kimberley 1-2 days (within the 2 weeks in Fernie as I could just day trip from Fernie save moving hotel again) Whitewater 1 week Red 2 weeks. Total 11 weeks which would allow time for rest days if knackered.
Anything you'd change there?
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You miss Panorama
And Castle
I’d spend more time at Banff and less at Fernie, or even KH
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What else do you expect 
The foods ok there too ( WW ) 
