Poster: A snowHead
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Had my skies waxed and edged before a recent trip. On the first day really struggled to engage the turn. Staying in the chalet was an ex ski instructor and he looked at my skies and told me the wax had been left on the edges and the edges sharpened right to the tip and tail. He removed the wax from the edges and used carborundum paper to take off the edge sharpness about 6 inches from both the top and bottom of the ski. The day after I was back to normal. Before I engage with the ski shop who did the service is his analysis correct and the route cause of me being unable turn?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@martindcrowe@hotmail.co.u, I don’t think his analysis is correct, but I do think you have a case to take to the shop.
Sounds more like they left a hanging burr on the edges, which is hideous to try and ski on. Just means they disn’t finish the job. Or the machine had a fault.
The wax is a red herring.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Sounds unlikely. I wouldn't imagine that wax would last a day on your edges. Also, I would have thought that edges should be equally sharp along the full length and struggling to initiate the turn wouldn't be as a result of the edge being too sharp.
What were the skis doing or not doing and how was it different to 'normal'? Also, I am assuming that these are piste skis with a standard profile rather than off-piste or park skis....
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Excess wax I doubt would have survived the first run, yes detuning the tips and tails would help but as @under a new name says sounds more like a burr. Why it is worth getting them done by a decent tuner rather than a random machine job in a ski shop.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@Klamm Franzer, in the old days, if you were prone to “catching an edge” it was common to “detune” the tips and tails. It’s not necessary with modern, more shaped, skis.
And I think you are quite right re the wax.
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@davkt, while a random shop might be a problem, a machine isn’t necessarily. Bro-in-law’s shop does a very excellent machine tune.
But a mis-aligned setting meant a truly hideous couple of runs one day last season.
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Thanks guys, forgot to add context about 3" of fresh snow. I've being ski-ing for 10 years (twice a year) and it felt like I was a beginner, in fact it was a sensation I've never experienced before. It was worse when trying to engage the left turn, rather than turning kept going straight on and into the trees! It did get a little better as the day went on but by 3 o'clock I had had enough.
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@martindcrowe@hotmail.co.u, I feel for you. Last year in St Anton, my wife had the same issue, only she was convinced she lost the ability to ski. The skis were uncontrollable and erratic.
In the end, she asked if we could hire some “easier” skis to get her ski legs back. We went into the ski shop, and it was then that I remembered what a bad tune could do. Asked Roland to havd a look; his response: “Unskiable!”. A good tune later and all was happiness.
The point was that I had the skis done in a shop in Melbourne that gets really positive reviews. It never occurred to me that they could have screwed up.
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Have had unskiable skis after tuning a few times, once a shop left a hanging burr, once I left a hanging burr (got a lot of stick off the Mrs for that). These were easily fixed with a gummi. Third one was fat off piste skis at UCPA, they had ground the bases but not redone the base angles, leaving 0 degree base angle, on fat skis that was atrociously snatchy on piste.
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I've had that before from a bad tune, it felt like my skis were trying to kill me! Had them re-serviced and they were fine.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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under a new name wrote: |
@davkt, while a random shop might be a problem, a machine isn’t necessarily. Bro-in-law’s shop does a very excellent machine tune.
But a mis-aligned setting meant a truly hideous couple of runs one day last season. |
Agreed but a badly set up and maintained machine will be
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Bad machine no worse, @davkt, than a spotty kid workng for drinkng money with no training...
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You know it makes sense.
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under a new name wrote: |
Bad machine no worse, @davkt, than a spotty kid workng for drinkng money with no training... |
Agreed on that too, though bad machine and spotty kid could be why I pottered over to the Piste Office for a bit of a training course a while back and do my own now!
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Now is a great time to learn to do them yourself.
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Poster: A snowHead
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often it is the monkey holding the wrench which is the problem
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Is the other test for finding a hanging burr.... using a tissue run lightly down the edge ?
Besides using ones finger nail does any other method work on other peoples skis or boards is what Im asking .
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