 Poster: A snowHead
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Just been skiing in seriously cold temperatures. Put boots (pretty much new) on in warm flat, short walk to lifts, clip up, couple of shortish runs interspersed with chairlifts, tighten up buckles a bit and, well, just ski for rest of day without any particular need to adjust boots at all. Yes, they stiffened a tad on lifts: but fundamentally the fit was really good and stayed good all day. Comfortable, useable boots. Yay!!!! 
This is seriously unusual for me... But I've had it before, again in very cold conditions, and on different boots. Yet take me to more normal skiing temperatures, including inside domes (never mind actually warm and sunny) and I could well be messing around with fit all day: too tight, too sloppy, you name it (not always in a predictable way, either). Same socks, not knowingly particularly sweaty feet or and foot swelling.
So what's going on? Shell, liner or foot? Should I just move to the Arctic?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@Grizzler, ...it’s not just you. Pebax plastic is used for climbing boots since it is less sensitive to temperature and retains ‘plastic’ qualities at low temps. But it’s expensive. The thermoplastics used for most ski boots are relatively temperature sensitive - I have 110 Langes which need to be kept in the front of the car in the ten minutes to lift otherwise in a very cold car in jan, they are a struggle to put on. By Easter they are just floppy plastic things and I need much stiffer boots.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Yep - skied same boots, same socks, today in England at probably about -2c (sunny, dry cold) - more faffing, less comfort, buckles very different settings, lot more slop at the heel and in the cuff, generally didn't feel half as good a fit as they did at -20  Flex didn't feel noticeably different though; maybe a tad softer, certainly easier to take off at the end of the day, though little difference to put on (which was in very warm apartment 2 weeks ago, at roadside today).
I give up.
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@Grizzler, don't quiteget the 'Put boots (pretty much new) on in warm flat, short walk to lifts, clip up, ' bit. For me it is always put boots on, clip up forget about boots!
If you walk with boots loose your feet are moving about causing movement in socks etc. I am firmly a convert of get buckle 3 sorted to pull your foot into the correct position then fasten the other 3 school of thought.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@Chris_n, Put on boots. Clips will barely reach 1st clip. Walk around in them for a bit, clips will then be able to be tightened as boots/liners warm up. Ski few runs, tighten again. Hopefully that should be it; frequently isn't, unfortunately.
This sequence is true of any boots which I've had from new.
(This ignores the fact that trying to walk on any surface or incline in a fully-tightened pair of ski boots (115s if it matters) without any kind of 'walk' mode is, for me at least, extremely difficult. With 3rd buckle right across ankle front tendons, doubly so.)
Sock movement never has been a problem for me. Toe bang has been an issue in 1 slightly small and lv pair due to slipping of the foot when walking, in turn due to inability of any boot I've had to give sufficient hold at 3rd buckle area (particularly reveals itself when walking in them, but an issue always which no fitter can yet solve, unless maybe one of them can and will get me some Zipfits - another saga, not relevant here.)
Maybe you have some super shells and liners which don't change with temperature, inside or out, or use? I want them...
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