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5 people caught in in-bounds avalanche at Jackson Hole

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I wasn't quite sure whether to post this in the off-piste section, but 5 people were caught in an in-bounds avalanche at Jackson Hole and buried to varying degrees. It occurred on Saturday morning in an expert chutes area which was officially open and therefore nominally avalanche controlled. It just goes to show that even in such areas there is always a finite risk. https://buckrail.com/in-bounds-avalanche-at-jackson-hole-mountain-resort-3-buried-no-fatalities/?fbclid=IwAR2STJ6SCam8cs5K48QbFC58N7ryLkrpKhhwvjSc7vHWWIMAPJ95oZnbe74
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Very lucky thankfully
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Pleased for the lucky outcome. I see, as is always the case, Jackson is over exaggerating their snow. They claim roughly nine feet/290cm to date .......... Ya, right.
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pleased that everyone made it out OK. Looks such an innocuous are as well! Well going by the photo I saw on one ladies FB page.
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arcsinice wrote:
Pleased for the lucky outcome. I see, as is always the case, Jackson is over exaggerating their snow. They claim roughly nine feet/290cm to date .......... Ya, right.


Yep sound perfectly plausible

Snowbasin Utah is about 250cm YTD with Alta and Snowbird similar and Utah is a bit further south
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Know the slope well. It's marvellously steep and, as the name suggests, entertainingly narrow in parts - although the name probably exaggerates the actual difficulty. There are several actual chutes of varying width and expertness.

In Europe, a guide would almost certainly insist that the narrow part was taken one at a time, with subsequent skiers having to wait until their lower partner was in a protected spot. As the slopes are assumed to be avi-controlled in Jackson, my family has always just blasted down without a care in the world or any consideration for the consequences of snow-pack failure. It seems that was what happened here. Most people don't have transponders, shovels, etc on that part of the mountain as it's a marked trail within bounds, albeit with a small warning sign at the top.

Glad no-one was hurt. I might be a little more careful next time I'm there.
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The riders need to get lawyered up.

Could get a tasty payout.
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Whitegold wrote:
The riders need to get lawyered up.

Could get a tasty payout.

You mean to say too bad they didn't die. Or their family could have gotten a nice payout. Wink
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I was once on a lift in Breckenridge when a ski instructor was attempting to persuade an American child who was about 6 years old that it was important to lower the bar on the chair lift. He said, 'What would happen if you fell off the chair?' and the little brat answered quick as a flash, 'I'd sue you'.
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john2 wrote:
I was once on a lift in Breckenridge when a ski instructor was attempting to persuade an American child who was about 6 years old that it was important to lower the bar on the chair lift. He said, 'What would happen if you fell off the chair?' and the little brat answered quick as a flash, 'I'd sue you'.


Laughing
Well what did you expect from a country whose founding principles (i.e the Constitution) were created by lawyers....... Wink
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Whitegold wrote:
The riders need to get lawyered up.

Could get a tasty payout.


How? Surely they know the risks when skiing? Therefore accepting them when skiing?

(Serious question).
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How? Surely they know the risks when skiing? Therefore accepting them when skiing?

(Serious question).


All the lift passes have some kind of t&c liability thing on the back basically saying you use the area at your own risk. You have to sign a waiver to pick up a season pass.

Risk of in bounds slides (at least anything big enough to cause serious injury) is so low. Far more risk of serious injury through collisions, tree wells, or even driving to the resort.
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marksymoo wrote:
Whitegold wrote:
The riders need to get lawyered up.

Could get a tasty payout.


How? Surely they know the risks when skiing? Therefore accepting them when skiing?

(Serious question).


Whilst I question the mentality of someone who looks for an opportunity to gain monetarily after an accident of no one's fault I think the 'victims' probably could take some action unfortunately. That said I'm sure there is some kind of waiver written into your ticket purchase but probably one that a lawyer could punch holes in given the cowdoo litigious nature of our society.
Avalanches are absolute tragedies when a life is lost but it's an accidental natural occurrence that one has to accept is a possibility when skiing - regardless of what type of skiing you're doing (piste/offpiste/controlled/uncontrolled). Unfortunately poo-poo happens.
*Personally if I had to choose between dying in an avalanche while skiing or getting hit by a bus walking to work I'd take the avalanche. (I would hope that it happened on the last day of my holiday though). Smile
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Whilst I question the mentality of someone who looks for an opportunity to gain monetarily after an accident of no one's fault I think the 'victims' probably could take some action unfortunately.


In 2012 a skier died in an in bounds avalanche at winter park. The family took legal action. In 2016 Colorado supreme court judged that in bounds avalanches are an inherent risk of skiing and that the waiver sufficiently covered what happened. So the precedent is legal action won't work.
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Colorado state law is not unsurprisingly different from Wyoming. Specifically Colorado has a skier safety act which effectively writes waiver stuff into law. No idea what Wyoming law is.
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