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Toepiece Binding setting - JUST WRONG!
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Hi.

Salomon Z12 (15/16 season)

Doing a ski service, wound the adjusters all out, then 'inching' the screws back until toepiece wings just came onto cam/spring
and noticed a scale difference of 1 whole 'din' unit between the skis Shocked

Checked and double checked, re zero 'd etc, counted screw turns, checked by tension just by comparison and yep, scale readings disagreed by 1 whole 'din' unit.

So, adjusting your scales to match isn't the proof of identical release values between the skis nor proof of accurate 'din' values.

There is an apparatus to verify the scale indication to a calibrated known accuracy but i have never seen anyone use one ! Shocked

FWIW, heel pieces matched each other exactly...
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@T_Hee, IIRC @spyderjon and Ski Bartlett both have the machine to test.
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@T_Hee, so what made you think it was a good idea to strip the bindings down? rolling eyes Toofy Grin
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@T_Hee, ooops. Winding the adjusters all the way out can displace a small alloy piece which locates the spring. Does one binding rattle?
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valais2 wrote:
@T_Hee, ooops. Winding the adjusters all the way out can displace a small alloy piece which locates the spring. Does one binding rattle?

valais, hey man, don't spoil it for me! Laughing
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@Tubaski, Thanks. I might well ask Bartletts. I'm probably there tomorrow.
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@spyderjon, my error in communication. I should have said, I noticed one binding toe piece release was "stiffer" so I investigated wanting to make both bindings the same. I wound back the tensioner screw until all load was off the mechanism. Toe piece wings had wobble freedom of approx 2mm. I then 'inched' back screws until no free movement, at this point, both screwdriver slots were aligned (2 full turns IIRC) but immediately noticed scale differences of 1 'din' unit. At this point, all toe piece wings had full smooth movement, both 'feeling similar' force to move.

I'm confident in this methodology. Clearly something is amiss though.

I'll ask Bartletts to check.
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@spyderjon,

Somehow that ebay purchase from overseas (although ski's were new), now looks dodgy!
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@spyderjon,

Bartletts tested bindings.

Only 1/2 as bad as I thought.

One toepiece (measured on accurate/calibrated equipment), was accurate to din scale indication. The other toepiece, at the same release breaking torque was reading 0.5 din less on scale indication.

I unaware what the tolerances are for mismatch between actual and indicated readings are. Apparently, its something Bartletts see more on Salomon bindings than others a couple of times every month.
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@T_Hee, personally, .5 DIN would not worry me. ymmv.

hardly an exact science, setting bindings
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@under a new name, said

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personally, .5 DIN would not worry me. ymmv.

hardly an exact science, setting bindings



Have to agree with you especially as i turn them up a bit. At least now, I know exactly what that little bit more actually is...
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