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WALES 2018/19: SNOW, IT'S NOT JUST FOR (A CHILD'S) CHRISTMAS IN WALES

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Here we go again Smile

"One Christmas was so much like another, in those years around the sea-town corner now and out of all sound except the distant speaking of the voices I sometimes hear a moment before sleep,
that I can never remember whether it snowed for six days and six nights when I was twelve or whether it snowed for twelve days and twelve nights when I was six."

A Child's Christmas In Wales - Dylan Thomas



Opening Day in the Brecon Beacons National Park last season was Saturday 25 November 2017 with great turns above Llyn-y-Fan-Fach in the Western part of the Park.

It was good early and late season either side of my annual jaunt to Hokkaido, Japan.

4 days in November and December; 7 days in March and April

Could easily have gotten the same in January and February.

This was the best day out there for me last season

Central Beacons Massif
Monday 11 December 2017


http://youtube.com/v/ZEl21O428OI



For anyone interested in making turns in Wales this winter here are some links to weather, webcams, and previous TRs.

WEATHER AND WEBCAMS

Brecon Beacons National Park
http://www.snow-forecast.com/resorts/Penyfan/6day/top
https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/mountain-forecasts/brecon-beacons
https://www.mountain-forecast.com/peaks/Pen-Y-Fan/forecasts/886


Snowdonia National Park
http://www.snow-forecast.com/resorts/Snowdon/6day/top
https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/mountain-forecasts/snowdonia
https://www.mountain-forecast.com/peaks/Carnedd-Llewelyn/forecasts/1064
https://ovmro.uk/webcam/d-link/ygarn_camera.jpg


Derek 'the weather' Brockway on BBC Wales TV and Radio

Brecon Beacons webcam
http://www.breconbeacons.org/webcams

Storey Arms web cam
http://members.traffic-wales.com/cctvimages/camera4001.jpg?



PREVIOUS SEASONS REPORTS

SR: SKI WALES - 2017/18 Winter Season in the Brecon Beacons & Snowdonia National Parks
https://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=133719&sid=18df3e0940de2320117808c3286935ca


SR: It Snows in Wales - 2016/17 Winter Season in the Brecon Beacons & Snowdonia National Parks
http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=128099

Facebook messing around with image coding again, so please have a look here for pics
https://www.facebook.com/mike.richards.927/media_set?set=a.10154775893378624.1073741885.506688623&type=3


SR : Wales 2015 / 16
http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?p=2790816#2790816

Facebook messing around with image coding again, so please have a look here for pics
https://www.facebook.com/mike.richards.927/media_set?set=a.10153754370568624.1073741871.506688623&type=3


SR : Wales 2013 / 14
http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?p=2388201&highlight=wales+brecon+beacons#2388201


SR : Wales 2012 / 13
http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=92399&highlight=mike+pow+wales


And plenty of pics and vids on my Instagram account

https://www.instagram.com/mikethesnow/


But even with that information you never know until you go.



TUESDAY 20 NOVEMBER 2018

'Yr Eira Gyntaf / The First Snow'

fell on the summit of Pen-y-Fan in the Central Beacons Massif today.

Here's Des Lally reporting from the summit

https://www.instagram.com/p/BqaZOvmHV8L/


Des is attempting to summit Pen-y-Fan 365 times in a calendar year to raise money for Cancer Research UK and Help for Heroes. He's up to 219.

Please support this tremendous endeavour if you can

https://uk.virginmoneygiving.com/DesLally



WEDNESDAY 21 NOVEMBER 2018

Snow-forecast and the Met Office are calling for wintry showers today, a freeze overnight, but then warming and rain from Thursday evening.

Unfortunately I can't get over there today - no wheels - but working on tomorrow morning.

UPDATE

Gareth Writer-Davies Image



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I've been keeping an eye on these forums for a while but never got around to making an account. Here's some pictures of the Beacons from Wednesday and Thursday. Skiing conditions were.. a bit agricultural!

By Thursday morning, most of the snow below about 800m had gone but the snow on the tops was crisp and compacted. If the freezing level was a bit lower and there was more snow forecast, I think that could definitely work!

Hopefully we get a December to remember!


http://youtube.com/v/XD2W9nRlksA&feature=youtu.be

Wednesday 21st November

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Thursday 22nd November

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Well played. Glad someone got out there.

Harder than it looks
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Great photos and nice to see some video from early in the season.
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Well played. Glad someone got out there.

Harder than it looks


Yeah a chairlift and some snow cannons would've made things a bit easier Very Happy

I'd be interested to see how the climate of Pen y Fan compares to some of the more 'developed' skiing areas in England like Yad Moss, Weardale and Allenheads. Apparently some of the local ski clubs used to run tows on Corn Du in the 80s?
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That Slope down from Corn Du towards the Pont ar Daf car park looks like a dream, and at around 75-90minutes drive from my side of the bridge, with the soon disappearing tolls makes some of the cheap touring skis on Facebook more and more tempting.

Anyone know how to buy and hide skis from a girlfriend? Laughing Toofy Grin
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This thread is one of the funny ones to follow (like every year) - @Mouse555, do you realy want lifts in such an area - a pitty I would think.

I never go treeking where there are lifts! wink

At least it is not grass skiing now! Madeye-Smiley
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Mouse555 wrote:
I'd be interested to see how the climate of Pen y Fan compares to some of the more 'developed' skiing areas in England like Yad Moss, Weardale and Allenheads. Apparently some of the local ski clubs used to run tows on Corn Du in the 80s?


In my experience skiing the Brecon Beacons National Park for over 10 years, snow falls & sticks every December, January & February. In good winters there will also be falls in November and March.

However, and it's a big HOWEVER it may only snow once each of those months and it may only last 1-2 days before it warms up and either melts or gets washed away by rain.

So if you can drop everything you should be able to get 5-7 days skiing each winter.

In epic winters like 09/10 and 10/11 when it snowed a lot and stuck around, 20-day seasons were enjoyed.
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@swskier, a friend keeps some skis that he "doesn't own" at another friends house Very Happy that has wife never visits.

And sometimes his passport too, especially just before a ski trip Laughing

The slush fund he runs is also "off shore " from the marital audit remit too Very Happy

Bit fraught that relationship.
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Indeed. Can only hope his wife has some equally good secrets of her own!
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@Mouse555, Nice one. More cover by the looks of it than North Wales.

Fingers crossed for Snowdonia soon.
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That Slope down from Corn Du towards the Pont ar Daf car park looks like a dream, and at around 75-90minutes drive from my side of the bridge, with the soon disappearing tolls makes some of the cheap touring skis on Facebook more and more tempting.

Anyone know how to buy and hide skis from a girlfriend? Laughing Toofy Grin




I've seen some people using these 'mini skis'.. which should be easier to conceal Very Happy

They might even be better for this type of skiing because it's probably easier to turn when you're lacking a good base?
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I would disagree.

The secret to S Wales skiing is speed and large radius turns with subtle edging.

Too quick and/or heavy on the edges and the skis will hit grass and it's over the handle bars time.
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Literally didn't know it was possible to ski here, and I've been living here for the past 18 odd years Shock

Found out about this thread from a different one!

I'm about an hour from Pen y fan, going to keep an eye out for some cheap skis and this thread/the conditions from now on!!

What do you wear to hike up it, walking boots?
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I hike up in my ski touring boots.

Or in great conditions use skins on my skis.

Where are you?
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Snow-forecast is calling for snow Wednesday night, all-day Thursday, and a clear and cold Friday morning.

Met Office showing rain.

Fingers crossed for the former.
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Ill go with rain for the forecast as of 17:28 today:
http://weather.unisys.com/forecasts?source=6&plot=141&region=eu&view=5
http://weather.unisys.com/forecasts?source=6&plot=101&region=eu&view=5
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Ill go with rain for the forecast as of 17:28 today:
http://weather.unisys.com/forecasts?source=6&plot=141&region=eu&view=5
http://weather.unisys.com/forecasts?source=6&plot=101&region=eu&view=5


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Hi Mike, any thoughts about this weekend - looks like we might get some snow during Saturday..?

It would be great to get the chance to ski together this year! Though I will generally be limited to weekends.

@Mouse555, great to see that you got out in November!

If anyone is interested, you can see the one day I got out in Beacons last season, during the Beast from the East in March, here:
Brecon Beacons Ski Adventure 2018 from Rob Horton
https://vimeo.com/259077313

Rob
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Where abouts were you ?
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A bit of fun Smile

It was on the north side of Pen y Fan, up Cwm Llwch on to the NW face. The lanes were completely drifted over as you see in the video, so I had to skin over the snow drifts all the way from Libanus.
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That's a great vid. Big day out. Couldn't get over from the west
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Nothing up there yet. Precip on the way tomorrow.

Warmer temps and rain from mid-morning Sunday.

So small window if it does snow.

May just go over anyway for sunrise on Sunday.
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Rain turning a bit sleety down here in Haverfordwest on my way home just now. Tempted to have a power nap and head up in the morning Very Happy

Anyone tried the Preselis? (It's superb after a good 'Pembrokeshire dangler'!)

This time last year..

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That looks great.

Light rain and high winds in Llandeilo, Carmarthenshire.

Waiting on live report from the Beacons via Facebook.

Latest from the summit. Looks like high winds, rime, and ice.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BrZ15jQHjtL/
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Well that's the first pre-Christmas period in a while when I haven't made turns in the Beacons Sad

I'm in Niseko, Hokkaido, Japan now until the en of February.

Hope January and February deliver.

And look forward to a snowy Spring.
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Welcome aboard.

I hike up in my ski touring boots.

Or in great conditions use skins on my skis.

Where are you?


Caerphilly... Hopefully moving in the new year (though, not sure where yet! - still around S.Wales/Cardiff-ish area)
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Big stratospheric warming happening at the moment. Have a horrible feeling it's not going to materialise though Sad
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http://youtube.com/v/huUS-CXvivI

It seems most the long range models are agreeing that we're going to have a colder couple weeks end of January/start of February. Models seem to range from Beast from the East 2.0 to just generally 'wintery'. Met Office are even forecasting things to get wintery from Wednesday/Thursday on the tops of the mountains!

BBC forecasting maximum temperatures for Sennybridge at 2-3 Celsius and sleet/snow for a good few days, although this is still 10 days off.

Personally i'm predicting something less intense and widespread than Beast From the East, but a more prolonged colder than average period with the sub zero maximums and possibly a fair bit of snow falling up in the hills/mountains.

Beast from the East was quite remarkable. People always talk about 2010 but down here in Tenby, March 1st was probably the deepest snow we had since 1982! December 2010, we had maybe 5cm - it just lasted ages!



Let's wait and see!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/0/2638202

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast/gcjx1v0vs#?date=2019-01-18
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I always take the forecasts from snow-forecast with a pinch of salt but about 50cm of snow forecast for top of Snowdon by Saturday snowHead Freezing level looks quite high though so probably rain/sleet below the highest peaks.

https://www.snow-forecast.com/resorts/Snowdon/6day/top

I've never skiied North Wales. Having a look through a few videos, snow seems to be more 'ski-able' in the north? Quite a few videos of some decent snowcover well into April.
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Mouse555 wrote:

I've never skiied North Wales. Having a look through a few videos, snow seems to be more 'ski-able' in the north? Quite a few videos of some decent snowcover well into April.


Takes more snowfall to make it skiable - far rockier in N Wales - but when it does come down it tends to stick around longer due to greater altitude and colder temps.
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Pen y Fan this morning. Looks like more snow on the way as well!

Enough for a few turns? What we reckon?

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North wales not looking quite so good:

https://ovmro.uk/webcam/d-link/ygarn_camera.jpg
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17th January 2019


http://youtube.com/v/s8QYvQEkoLY

I'm still learning to ski South Wales - it's a bit different to those wide open pisted blues in the Alps snowHead Hopefully with a bit more snow and some practice i'll be able to ski in more than one direction!


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Met Office saying a period of heavy snow tomorrow and then a bit more on the weekend. Also Monday/Tuesday may have another heavy snow event. Car was saying -1 when I left Storey Arms at about half 5, so I imagine that snow's going to get added to.. or blown away? Longer range forecast is looking good with most suggesting continuing colder than average conditions with some models suggesting extreme cold. The debate seems to be more about how widespread any snowfall will be. I'd be surprised if there wasn't multiple snow days in the mountains snowHead

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast/gcjx1v0vs#?date=2019-01-19

Also met a nice chap called Des, who's climbing Pen Y Fan every day of the year to raise money for Cancer Research UK and Help for Heroes. Well worth a donation!

https://uk.virginmoneygiving.com/fundraiser-display/showROFundraiserPage?userUrl=DesLally&pageUrl=1
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Well played. Hope the snow comes for you.

Des is a legend.
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Raining heavily down here in Pembrokeshire at the moment so peaks in the west might get a decent amount of new snow.

Forecasts are saying it's going to warm up (a bit) and showers turning to rain/sleet up to the summits by late afternoon/evening and temperature hovering around 1-2C on the tops for most of Saturday.

Hoping there's not too much snow loss because next week looks good for temperatures staying below freezing above 600m

We'll see!
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I was up in Cwm Llwch on the N side of Pen y Fan yesterday afternoon, a few snow patches were left above 650m and some consolidated snow on the lee of the ridge, but nothing seriously skiable. As you say Mouse, mid week may see a return to lower temperatures and some snow, fingers crossed! Though I won’t be back until next weekend.

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