can anyone recommend a good wax please. I'm left a little confused by the different temperature waxes vs the multi purpose ones. I've seen some "data wax" on ebay very cheap. is it garbage?
i ski the alps in January and Feb. don't do much spring skiing
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I’ve always used Dominator Zoom wax, which is an all temperature wax.
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HotDogger wrote:
+1 for the dominator wax.
@PaulC1984 may still have some for sale at good prices. Might be worth a PM.
Thanks for the plug
I have both Dominator and Holmenkol in at the moment, if anyone is in need
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This came up on google:
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Q: How can some wax cost eight dollars and some over one hundred fifty?
A: The cost of wax is largely dependent on the fluorocarbon content of the bar. Most waxes use either a hydrocarbon or fluorocarbon composition to determine the water repellency. This is very important because as the ski glides across the snow it is actually melting the snow creating water suction, so the more water repellent the wax the faster the ski is able to glide. Most inexpensive ($8-$15 per 60 gram bar) will use hydrocarbons, which will do the job but are the least water repellent of materials used. As waxes increase in price they will start to use different levels of fluorocarbons, and the price will rise accordingly. Low fluorocarbon waxes tend to be the choice of advanced to expert skiers who are looking for a clean glide without breaking the bank ($20-$35 per 60 gram bar) and as training wax for racers. High fluorocarbons waxes are usually saved for race day preparations and skiers looking for a long lasting and very fast wax ($70-$90 per 40 gram bar). The pinnacle in wax is pure fluorocarbon ($160-$220 per 20 gram powder), saved for race run application, and is used very sparingly.
I use some no name Universal wax that I bought a job lot when Edge and Wax went out of business.
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Data wax is very good and made by my old trainer Ed Pirie.
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Gordyjh wrote:
Data wax is very good and made by my old trainer Ed Pirie.
Not any more. Ed sold the business to the Crawfords a few years ago.
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so, what happens if you use very cold wax and the next day its warm and vice versa?
You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
I used data universal wax. It is better than white candle wax, in that it lasts a few days longer.
so, what happens if you use very cold wax and the next day its warm and vice versa?
Just use warm wax.
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rjs wrote:
dave_3 wrote:
so, what happens if you use very cold wax and the next day its warm and vice versa?
Just use warm wax.
So you rewax your ski each day the weather changes?
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In Europe just use universal and then top up with Zardoz if needed. +1 for Data wax, been using it for years, lasts OK.
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Layne wrote:
rjs wrote:
dave_3 wrote:
so, what happens if you use very cold wax and the next day its warm and vice versa?
Just use warm wax.
So you rewax your ski each day the weather changes?
I rewax my skis every night anyway, after looking at the forecast for the next day, wax doesn't last a whole day. I have race wax to cover the whole temperature range.
In France, for the last few winters, the correct wax is nearly always the warmest one.
If the OP is going somewhere unusual that still gets cold winters then they should ask a more specific question.
so, what happens if you use very cold wax and the next day its warm and vice versa?
Just use warm wax.
So you rewax your ski each day the weather changes?
I rewax my skis every night anyway, after looking at the forecast for the next day, wax doesn't last a whole day. I have race wax to cover the whole temperature range.
In France, for the last few winters, the correct wax is nearly always the warmest one.
If the OP is going somewhere unusual that still gets cold winters then they should ask a more specific question.
nope. just going to chamonix in January. First year with my own gear. I might buy some propa expensive fluro wax so I can do this.......... http://youtube.com/v/EaKByOtCWy4
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rjs wrote:
I rewax my skis every night anyway, after looking at the forecast for the next day, wax doesn't last a whole day.
That is a waste of time and money if you ask me but each to there own.
rjs wrote:
I have race wax to cover the whole temperature range.
Surely "race wax" would have a very specific temperature range? And surely using a "whole temperature range" wax doesn't make sense if you are waxing daily to meet the conditions of the following day
rjs wrote:
If the OP is going somewhere unusual that still gets cold winters then they should ask a more specific question.
He already said "i ski the alps in January and Feb. don't do much spring skiing"
I rewax my skis every night anyway, after looking at the forecast for the next day, wax doesn't last a whole day.
That is a waste of time and money if you ask me but each to there own.
Don't wax at all then. Wax really doesn't last a whole day.
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rjs wrote:
I have race wax to cover the whole temperature range.
Surely "race wax" would have a very specific temperature range? And surely using a "whole temperature range" wax doesn't make sense if you are waxing daily to meet the conditions of the following day
I have the whole range of race waxes from one particular supplier, they are individually designed to work at different temperatures. In practice I just use the warmest weather one.
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rjs wrote:
If the OP is going somewhere unusual that still gets cold winters then they should ask a more specific question.
He already said "i ski the alps in January and Feb. don't do much spring skiing"
The actual temperature range of the warmest weather wax that I own matches the conditions that I saw in January and February for the last few winters. Use the same wax in the spring too.
Then you can post your own questions or snow reports...
Then you can post your own questions or snow reports...
rjs wrote:
Wax really doesn't last a whole day.
Any evidence for that? How long does it last then? Do you wax at lunchtime?
Data Wax as mentioned above state "Normal holiday skiing on decent snow - about once every 3 or 4 days"
After all it is free
After all it is free
Not to be remotely dictatorial............ But if any of you are not familiar with Hertel (Wax), dare I say, you ought to be. The company's "basic" product is their "Hot Sauce". Phenomenal. They formulate several other specialized (racing) product, but the Hot Sauce is, hands down, beyond exceptional to say the least for general skiing. No flouros in that formula, by the way...........
How good, as it were? Let's put it this way.......... Numerous federation, as SOP under alpine supplier pool contract with the "Big Three" wax companies as numerous federation website clearly indicate, therefore said federation's team must use such product........, I know for fact that a number of technicians use Hertel and never acknowledge same. It IS that much better.
Visit Hertel's website and you make the assessment......... It sells in GB via limited distribution.
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Wax is a waste of time.
The snow scrubs it off in minutes.
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Whitegold wrote:
Wax is a waste of time.
The snow scrubs it off in minutes.
You're doing it wrong / depends on the conditions. When I prep mine it tends to last well in normal alpine snow. Even in the warmth and slush the correct waxes don't give up right away.
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arcsinice wrote:
Not to be remotely dictatorial............ But if any of you are not familiar with Hertel (Wax), dare I say, you ought to be. The company's "basic" product is their "Hot Sauce". Phenomenal. They formulate several other specialized (racing) product, but the Hot Sauce is, hands down, beyond exceptional to say the least for general skiing. No flouros in that formula, by the way...........
How good, as it were? Let's put it this way.......... Numerous federation, as SOP under alpine supplier pool contract with the "Big Three" wax companies as numerous federation website clearly indicate, therefore said federation's team must use such product........, I know for fact that a number of technicians use Hertel and never acknowledge same. It IS that much better.
Visit Hertel's website and you make the assessment......... It sells in GB via limited distribution.
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