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Lessons for Autistic, Dyspraxic and dyslexic child

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I am just trying to arrange lessons for my autistic, dyslexic and dyspraxic daughter. She is turning 9 and has skied for at least 1 week a year on snow (some years managed two weeks) and since she was 3yrs old and had quite a number of dry ski slope lessons.

She is reasonably high functioning on the autistic scale and we used to book her into group lessons. However the issues now come as she has progresssd technically beyond the nursery slopes but as she progresses at a much slower rate than others in the lesson and she doesn’t like following! She gets left behind all the time.

I am considering trying to book her into private morning lessons but then into groups for the afternoon (if the ski school will allow me to).

Has anybody taken this approach? What approaches have others taken in similar positions?

Many thanks

Nicky
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@NickyJ, have you thought about lessons in the UK? Snowability is run by a friend of mine and they do a great job with kids who have additional needs.
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@rob@rar, yes but I was under the understanding that was only at Hemel? Which is a 2hr drive away. Thinking we may do a trip over there but sadly can’t make that a regular thing as simply can’t fit it in amongst other activities we do with both our girls.

We used to get on quite well with private and group lessons at Snowtrax until the transition lesson to the main slope where she fell off the lift and she will not use that lift again Sad. I have tried everything to bribe / cajole / pressure her and that is a no go area.
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As Rob says, the guys at Snowbility do a great job (they are now at Tamworth too, although that obviously doesn't help you). It might be worth taking a look at the holidays page on their website https://snowbility.co.uk/snow-sports-holidays/ - links to a few groups there that might give you some options or ideas.
As well as Snowbility our autistic son has skiied each year with Skiing4All (linked on that page), although I suspect they might not be quite what you are looking for.
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@Tubaski, thanks for that.

May be able to do a Tamworth lesson easier in some ways as in-laws live near Birmingham. May be able to arrange a one off there, but again no good as a regular thing.

Will read up in skiing 4 all, the little I have read to date is it isn’t quite what we are after, but maybe it is. This Feb we are going to Radstadt and will be using the local ski school, hoping that a mixture of private and groups while there will work (based on observations of what has and hasn’t worked in the past) but keen to know others routes and what worked for them so thanks so much for your post.
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@NickyJ, Have you thought of using dry ski slopes? Your location says Hampshire. I teach at Aldershot with Aldershot Snowsports for the Disabled (ASD). Also there is SSCD (SSCD). I also teach with Snowhounds a small group at Bracknell (Snowhounds).

David
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@Cymro66, we are the wrong side of Hampshire, Snowtrax is our closest and as I said above, she will not go onto the main slope as will not use the lift due to falling off it during the transition lesson. We could try the Southampton one which is further but massively closer than Aldershot etc. However she has no issues with the short slopes we have in the UK, issues come about in longer runs which from a technical ability POV she is more than ready for.
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There's a couple of threads on here about skiing with disabled children, specifically downs syndrome if I remember correctly. Different issue I realise, but posters had given links to good ski schools in some resorts who specialise in lessons for those who need a bit more attention. If you search "disability" or similar you should find them. Good luck.
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After a lot of consideration I have booked her into private morning lessons for the first two days of our holiday but joining the group for lunch and afternoon lessons, then by day three she will do group lessons all day. The ski area we are going to is small which I believe will suit her better than a large area. In the past when she did the private lessons in Val Thorens day 3 the instructor was amazed a the difference in how fast she would let herself ski. When we took her to the snow dome her first few runs down were incredibly slow, but she gradually got faster and faster as she got used to it. Hence I am hoping that by day three she will feel comfortable to keep up with the groups.

I will update after half term as to how it worked. In case this is of any use to others.
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@NickyJ, good luck, let us know how you get on.
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FWIW. I have a Dyspraxic Son who is very uncoordinated..and took him skiing thinking it could well be a disaster.

In fact it was the opposite. He was with Neil "Woody" Woodward (now with Progression Ski) in Val D'Isere, who was gentle, patient and bomb-proof.

We found he had a natural ability, but would only turn, when told to turn....otherwise he just went straight. IIRC He would then have been about the age of your Daughter. Of all our 4 children, he probably had the most early talent....which took us somewhat by surprise.

My Son is shy and very particular about who he befriends - and Woody was a firm and trusted friend by the end of the week.
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@Old Fartbag, that sounds like Keira in April 2017, she was bombing down slopes straight lining half the time and to take her off the green in the day we had skiing with them after their lessons, I came to an agreement she needed to turn when I said which worked great. Then when we went out in Feb 2018 she suddenly found fear and didn’t want to let herself go beyond a snails pace unless on a Short nursery run. Found the same in April as well.

She started at 3 and got it into her head when she was 5 that she couldn’t skis and just kept sitting herself down. We did a series of private lessons on the dry ski slope which broke that barrier. He was really patient with her, gamiefied it and worked nicely.

We now need to get past this next barrier. In private it isn’t such an issue but can’t afford to have her in all day private’s all week, but hoping we can get her to the point she feels comfortable to keep up with the group
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@Old Fartbag, that sounds like Keira in April 2017, she was bombing down slopes straight lining half the time and to take her off the green in the day we had skiing with them after their lessons, I came to an agreement she needed to turn when I said which worked great. Then when we went out in Feb 2018 she suddenly found fear and didn’t want to let herself go beyond a snails pace unless on a Short nursery run. Found the same in April as well.

She started at 3 and got it into her head when she was 5 that she couldn’t skis and just kept sitting herself down. We did a series of private lessons on the dry ski slope which broke that barrier. He was really patient with her, gamiefied it and worked nicely.

We now need to get past this next barrier. In private it isn’t such an issue but can’t afford to have her in all day private’s all week, but hoping we can get her to the point she feels comfortable to keep up with the group

FWIW. It's probably not what you want to hear....but I would be of the belief, that if we had then put my Son into group lessons, it would have undone the confidence he had built up.

On the day we were leaving, we had a late transfer and Woody invited him to join his regular morning Private lesson, with a local British Girl of the same age....he said it would be company for her. This worked, as Woody knew both the kids involved...and the little Girl had a quiet temperament that didn't intimidate.....I suppose finding someone to share the lesson would be difficult.
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@Old Fartbag, we are going to have to see how she gets on.

We did do shared lessons with [b]Sparklies[\b] son which went ok. But Keira was holding back Gabriel due to her refusal to go any faster apart from the third day. We only did three days of shared private lessons.
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NickyJ wrote:
@Old Fartbag, we are going to have to see how she gets on.

We did do shared lessons with [b]Sparklies[\b] son which went ok. But Keira was holding back Gabriel due to her refusal to go any faster apart from the third day. We only did three days of shared private lessons.

Good Luck with it....it's a difficult balance to get right.
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@Old Fartbag, we are going to have to see how she gets on.

We did do shared lessons with [b]Sparklies[\b] son which went ok. But Keira was holding back Gabriel due to her refusal to go any faster apart from the third day. We only did three days of shared private lessons.

Good Luck with it....it's a difficult balance to get right.


Thanks - if it doesn’t work (and if they have availability which given it is half term isn’t that high) I may have to upgrade her to private’s later in the week). She is really happy (absolutely loves) going up and down the same slope, so if necessary she could just join a beginner group on the nursery slopes which may end up being with her cousins....
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Quote:

if necessary she could just join a beginner group on the nursery slopes which may end up being with her cousins....

You could do worse - if that means she has a happy, relaxed, time. And can feel competent, compared to the cousins.
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if necessary she could just join a beginner group on the nursery slopes which may end up being with her cousins....

You could do worse - if that means she has a happy, relaxed, time. And can feel competent, compared to the cousins.


That’s my thinking. I just want her to enjoy herself and she loves skiing. Anybody who was at the Oktobertest would have seen her going up and down the slope until 9pm and still ready for more despite normally going to bed at 7:30! It just she gets concerned by long runs and snowboarders... more specifically out of control snowboards that crash into her. Sad
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@NickyJ, I don’t think she is the only person to be concerned about out of control snowboarders. They worry me. It seems to me she is being sensible if a bit cautious.

Anyway good luck and I hope you all have a great holiday
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