Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Whitefish is free for 70 +
Arapahoe Basin is 105$ for 70+ [ no blackouts]
The evil empire's Epic pass is 899$ and there is no age related discount whatsoever. But if you ski Vail for 6 days or so then it starts to make sense as a walk up day ticket is about 175$. NB there is an age related discount on day tickets bought in advance.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@TQA, I'm not 70
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You need to Login to know who's really who.
You need to Login to know who's really who.
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Season tickets for 65+ are $560 if bought by Sept. 30.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Masque wrote: |
@TQA, I'm not 70 |
Then you are not yet an old fart.
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You'll need to Register first of course.
You'll need to Register first of course.
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My red mountain season pass for this year was under £500 (regular adult, only discount was for buying early).
It's interesting that resorts have senior rates. Generally the older people are retired so get more days in, and are likely wealthier than younger people in their twenties so arguably don't need the discount as much. Seems kind of unfair.
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Hands off the senior lift pass discount@boarder2020
Just a minute ....
Who's been around for all these years pasting their well earned alpine dollars to the wall and supporting the lift companies?
I for one would probably be quite a rich man if I had not discovered skiing in 1963.
If you are lucky enough one day you'll be a senior skier as well and you can enjoy the privilege of a discounted lift pass and a free bus pass and a TV licence when you are too blind and deaf to use it.
Hands off the senior lift pass discount
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boarder2020 wrote: |
It's interesting that resorts have senior rates. Generally the older people are retired so get more days in, and are likely wealthier than younger people in their twenties so arguably don't need the discount as much. Seems kind of unfair. |
People in their twenties quite often get HUGE discount, if they’re in college. At least in the US anyway.
On the other hand, if they’re in college, they will be getting a decent income soon. Why should mountains give them such big discount? Seems kind of unfair.
Let’s do away with ANY discount. If they can’t afford to ski, there’ll be more space for those who can.
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
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Don't worry @DrLawn I'm not that bothered as it really doesn't affect me. In fact I'd never really thought about it until a gondola discussion with a guy with a senior pass. He was the one saying it was unfair! He was saying they need to do more to encourage younger people to take up skiing which is becoming unaffordable to many in North America due to the high lift ticket costs (I realise there are deals but for someone planning their first ski trip looking at day tickets on top of all the rental equipment etc.). I think the stats support that skiing is a dying sport in this regard in North America. Without recruiting new skiers there will be noone to subsidize the pass for seniors in future and while less skiers means less crowds, too many less means higher pass costs.
On the other hand most of the seniors are pretty set financially and would be buying a pass regardless of discount or not. They also likely have more free time to use the pass more, so would still be getting a better deal than the younger people still at work.
It was an interesting point of view i had not really considered.
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On the other hand, if they’re in college, they will be getting a decent income soon. Why should mountains give them such big discount? |
Simple economics. Get them into skiing while they are young by giving them a cheap rate, then profit when they are older and have money. (That's assuming their college education will provide them a decent income!). The same argument can not be said for giving seniors a discounted pass.
I'm sure there are many other factors too. Maybe the seniors spend more in restaurants? How many of the college students end up bringing friends that pay full price for a day pass? Etc.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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@Thornyhill, good business model, I think you've cracked it
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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boarder2020 wrote: |
I'm sure there are many other factors too. Maybe the seniors spend more in restaurants? How many of the college students end up bringing friends that pay full price for a day pass? Etc. |
The point being, nobody in their right (financial) mind would just pay the full walk-up price at the ticket window. There're sooooo many different kind of discounts: for children, for seniors, for colleges, or simply for those who have the free time to ski mid-week!
As for the economic of senior discounts, have you forgotten grandchildren?
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10% off here, can't wait.........
Mind you, was touring with a 74 yo Swede this season and he took great pleasure in getting his free day pass when we all had to pay for our "Randonée" passes, which were admittedly less than half price!
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You know it makes sense.
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They offer free lift tickets in the 3 Valleys, France, for over 75s.
We hope to make use of the offer in 20 years time!
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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The point being, nobody in their right (financial) mind would just pay the full walk-up price at the ticket window |
I completely agree. Although people do. I see people buying them even at 10 or 11am, I mean at least if you're paying full price get first lift to make the most of it. It's the people that ski the most that realise there are so many discounts (plus have ski friends to buddy tickets). For someone looking at skiing for the first time they probably check the official resort site and see the full price and just assume that's the going rate.
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Poster: A snowHead
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