 Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Universal is ok. If you are deadly serious you can go temp specific for better glide but that depends on only waxing when you know what the temps will be. If you have warm wax on and it is a long way sub zero you can really stick and vice versa.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Datawax on Amazon , seems ok , cheap
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@Miksim, Talk with Jon (Spyderjon) at Piste office, he'll be along soon....he's the maestro of everything ski tech...
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| Miksim wrote: |
| I want to wax my skies myself. |
I don't recommend trying to wax the sky.
Skis should be OK
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Shades of Jimi Hendrix
" Scuse me while I wax dis guy"
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@dp, Could be a big job that, and I don't know if it'll stick anyway...
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Miksim
Self maintenance of equipment is great and everyone, if possible, should do it. The more one attends to anything of theirs the better. But............. You say you want to save a little money and wax your skis. Great. But if you do not have the minimum tools to wax, which I am of the impression......., you will in the end spend considerably more to that of a shop's hot wax cost. And I am of the intransigent position that numerous waxings are essential throughout a given week of skiing.
If you do it yourself you need a basic variable temp iron - nothing fancy or dedicated, just a basic variable temp iron, wax of your choosing and honestly, an all-around type works great and a scraper. Beyond that a specialized brush. A dedicated cork for polishing. But in a pinch, folded newspaper works well, too. And I have not remotely remarked about files and other base/edge tools...........
Factor the costs of all required waxing tools and wax and you might take a different posture for the time being, first by having the skis checked thoroughly by a shop, prepped, waxed and ready to go............, then, once on the trip apply some of the additional saved cost to leaving your skis at any day's end overnight at a shop right at the base of the mountain (as I always do whenever I am away on a ski vacation outside of Snowmass) and have the skis hot waxed to be picked up the next A.M. It's a winner all around........... The skis are in their hands, not mine and are waxed for any and all next day.......... It's always worth the cost. Waxing, beyond making for a silk smooth running surface also serves to protect base.
I highly recommend some handy teflon type liquid such as ZARDOZ or similar type by whatever convenient means as is now readily available to carry and apply if one wants to "cheat" by a day or two.
In terms of wax, the general public need not get fancy. They just need to wax............., often. Terry Hertel, over forty years ago proved that. I would recommend to anyone visiting the HERTEL SKI WAX website and educate oneself about the basics and then some regarding ski wax. Hertel is as knowledgeable - and painfully candid - about wax science as anyone could possibly hope for. His Hot Sauce alone proved that.
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
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All that remote remarking...
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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@Miksim, Holmenkol produce great wax. I use it. Ive sent you a PM with some details.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Thanks Paul 
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| Miksim wrote: |
| What is ski wax made of anyway and why not use natural ingrediens only? |
There is this, other manufacturers may do something similar.
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You know it makes sense.
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Hi @Miksim, welcome to  s!
@spyderjon, who is resident ski tech on this forum, stocks Dominator Zoom. It's a universal wax whith a very broad working temperature range. His prices are also keen.
Shoot him a pm and see if he could sort you out.
Regards
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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If you get the general wax and you find it a bit slow, just move to a steeper slope
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Poster: A snowHead
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Remember that wax just makes skis slippy in the glide but you need sharp edges to make them grippy in the turns.
I can recommend investing in spyderjon's half day tuning course at the Piste Office. You even get biscuits!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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You got biscuits? 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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You need to Login to know who's really who.
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Thanks - just what I needed to, guys!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| Bigtipper wrote: |
| Using ski wax remover is a novelty which I do use now, did not in the past. It cleans the base better prior to adding new wax. |
You shouldn't use wax remover on the bases. Just brass brush. Or you can do a hot wax scrape if you like.
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The time to use wax remover is before making base repairs. No need to do it before waxing, just brass brush it as Themasterpiece said.
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Lol, are you serious?!? Because that is marketing waffle trying to sell you the product!
Base cleaner is essential when doing base repairs, as others have said, in order to ensure the p-tex welds well to your base. Any other time a wire brush will clean the structure of the base ready for a fresh waxing.
If it's an end of season service a base cleaner might not be ridiculous to give your skis or board a clean up...however a warm wax and scrape will probably do as good a job.
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I have 3 types of waxes
Piste Fast wax
Glacier/super-cold/Off piste wax
Spring wax
Working a combination of these i get performance whatever the weather.
After a fresh snow fall for example I will drip a mix of Glacier wax and Piste wax. If it's spring and warm and melty after just a few hours I bust out the Spring wax.
If it's a kind of regular condition day mid temp for the time of year and I want to carve up the day I will drip just piste wax.
If it is very cold (probably below -10*c) i will use the super cold wax only.
Basically, Just have some fun with it and you'll find what works for you.
Also a tip for saving money is wrap your clothes iron in Foil (get a smooth wrinkle free face), and melt away. much cheaper than a waxing iron, although make sure you turn the steam off otherwise you will severely burn your hand.
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Oh i occaisionally bust out the base cleaner, to clear away all the yuk that can build up in the bases and stop the wax sticking to the ski - but it's all personal choice.
Although some people disagree and break out the instruction manual and scientific study papers about what you should buy and how best to use it. Really, we all like different things and what works for someone may not work for you
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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When I add wax, I nearly always have to use ptex due to deep gouges. However, I do not always ski on deep compacted well pisted pistes. Therefore, for me, my method seems reasonable given consensus advice. I do not use much base cleaner, and have only done so since I bought a bottle. I have not used it to remove wax from carpets after it dribbled on them! That is another problem altogether....
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| Bigtipper wrote: |
for example says: "Apply the Toko Wax Remover HC3 |
I got that far then stopped. As soon as it refers to a product brand and name, you know that it's marketing material, not genuine advice.
I don't know anyone who uses wax remover. A hot scrape clears all the crap out of your base (you know this because the wax comes off black in places) just fine and can be done really quickly and easily as part of your normal hot waxing routine.
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Quite a few suggestions elsewhere for Swix Glide Wax Cleaner instead of a hot scrape. Personally I've only ever hot scraped,
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