 Poster: A snowHead
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Of course I know the correct answer is "n+1". Hear me out:
For:
- there's the Down presale at amazing prices
- my DPS 112s, which I loved, have zero base left
- I haven't bought any skis for three years
Against:
- I still have my great Whitedot Ranger 108s which are my go-everywhere ski
- I still have a pair of ON3P Wrenegades in 112mm / 192 cm, which are great in the right conditions (basically, no uphill and no quick turns)
- most worryingly, I tend to break myself every time I get new skis, though not actually skiing (2011: ACL done while learning to surf in the North Sea; 2014: tore my ankle ligaments AFTER finishing a fantastic Hidden Valley run in Verbier)
WWShD?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Will you actually miss the DPSs?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| under a new name wrote: |
| Will you actually miss the DPSs? |
Good question. I'd need to replace them with something similar, looking at Countdown 114s from Down skis. Of course I can still keep the DPSs, just need to avoid hitting rocks. Or pebbles. Or pretty much anything harder than ice.
Not too keen on spending more than 1000 euros for new carbon DPSs.
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@horizon, why?
I have to say I can't be @rsed carrying multiple skis these days. Not sure I ever could. Other than the SGs.
My old Mantras did everything. My Bonafides arguably better.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@under a new name, while I love the Whitedot Rangers, I enjoy skiing deep powder a bit more on a wider ski with a bigger shovel, and I'd like to keep a light binding for the 50% touring ski and a slightly burlier one for the 80% downhill ski. And in very tricky snow (breakable crust for instance) I'm more comfortable with that bigger shovel / bigger rocker.
But you're giving me a valid answer! I can definitely use the WDs for everything, they're absolutely great skis.
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| under a new name wrote: |
@horizon, why?
I have to say I can't be @rsed carrying multiple skis these days. Not sure I ever could. Other than the SGs.
My old Mantras did everything. My Bonafides arguably better. |
The way (and where, how often, etc) @horizon skis he absolutely gets the benefit of proper fat skis! You should really try them in the proper conditions too 
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| horizon wrote: |
For:
- there's the Down presale at amazing prices
- my DPS 112s, which I loved, have zero base left
Against:
- I still have my great Whitedot Ranger 108s which are my go-everywhere ski
- I still have a pair of ON3P Wrenegades in 112mm / 192 cm, which are great in the right conditions (basically, no uphill and no quick turns) |
Assuming the Wailers need to be retired, you could 'replace' them with the Wrens for resort and add a touring binding to your 108s.
Or you could look at the Down 114s. I haven't skied the Wrens, but compared to the W112 the 114s are maybe not quite as good in untracked pow in the trees, but definitely more stable opening it up at speed, and better in crud and chop. I think they'll be a bit easier and less of a freight train than the Wrens (though can def still charge - just check what Mickael Bimboes has been up to and will get up to on the FWT this year!); more nimble when it gets tight and def lighter going up.
Would you want to tour on them? Obviously the new 114L is lighter and will be great for powder touring. But the standard 114 comes in shorter lengths which might be better if you're skinning on them regularly in more conditions? Though tbd you still have the Rangers for those duties!
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@clarky999, I have skied propr-ish fat skis, CMH modded (unrockered tail) Coombacks ?110mm + ? In a week of BC powder.
Perfect tool for the job.
Not something I'd want to ski on a well groomed hooning day round Monterosa.
Just saying.
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@under a new name, no, but if all your skiing is focussed on offpiste (like Horizon, who's an excellent skier) there's little point compromising performance there for the odd day you end up doing nothing but groomer-zooming
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@clarky999, this is, to be fair, a fair and reasonable point.
I fear my skiing is compromised...
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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| under a new name wrote: |
I fear my skiing is compromised... |
Somehow I doubt it I think you just know what you like and what works for your style!
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@clarky999, no really, I do not ski enough steep and deep, actually not enough skiing at all! It is testament that I now look forward to the x-country track being open! 
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@horizon, Ragnarok CL and Quiver Killer your bindings across from your Rangers.
Simples 
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You know it makes sense.
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@under a new name, no, but if all your skiing is focussed on offpiste (like Horizon, who's an excellent skier) there's little point compromising performance there for the odd day you end up doing nothing but groomer-zooming
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Yeah but its not like he doesn't have other uncompromised options already!
I note quite a few people end up with several pretty similar skis - I'm not sure I see the point in that either. It would cause me ski locker angst - which should I be on today?
I have R108CLs as daily driver
Redeemers for real powder days
old stockli stormriders for when either it hasn't snowed for ages or I'm being sociable with less able skiers and still want to get some satisfaction from haring around the piste
(Also have a pair of old line prophet 100s with fritschis which hang around in the cave ready to subvert visiting mates into a bit of easy touring).
I reckon I have all bases covered really.
Well - could argue the case for a narrower lightweight touring set up but for the amount of days they'd be used I'm better off hiring.
And I do find myself fondling cheater GS skis but the stocklis have to die first.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@jedster,
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old stockli stormriders
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When you need to replace them, try the Bonafides. But go a little shorter than you'd expect.
Or... I have a slightly used pair of 190 factory full bore can't buy in the shops FIS GS Rossignols... good price to a fine fellow...?? - a truly lovely ski and for not a lot of bucks
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Poster: A snowHead
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I've got a bit of a choice these days (fat Bents, all round Enforcers, SLs and GS) but if I had to take only one ski on a trip it would be my 120mm's unless I was going to be sticking mainly on piste. If rocks were a big danger then my Enforcers as my oldest ski would have to take the hits.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Countdown 114Ls ordered
I dreamed of them (literally) last night, so I had to.
(Sorry @spyderjon, couldn't resist the shape and the price. And God playing soft-voiceover ads to me, around 6.15 am)
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I'm not trying to make light of addiction but the OP may as well ask a gathering of drunks if another drink is a good idea.
I agree with every bit of advice given.
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