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Ok, so take long term forecast with a pinch of salt. Buts first day of trip to ADH is showing 22 cm of snow plus thunder. what's the risk for skiers waving metal poles around?
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None, unless there is lightning... Very Happy
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Dr Rock wrote:
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Sigh! Just curious never been out in a storm before. Doubt it will stop me
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Posidrive, use carbon fibre ones ? Toofy Grin
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You are fine, but wear good ear muffs,
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@Posidrive, With all the earthed lift towers and cables you should be fine. I wouldn't advise climbing any peaks though.

I suspect the resort will shutdown in the event of a proper thunder storm.
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Dr Rock wrote:
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Not as flippant as it first seems, you can hear thunder from 20 miles away.
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Lightning can get you 50 miles away.
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Norrin Radd wrote:
Lightning can get you 50 miles away.


Technically speaking it isn't 50 miles away any more.
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Thornyhill wrote:
Norrin Radd wrote:
Lightning can get you 50 miles away.


Technically speaking it isn't 50 miles away any more.


There's always one bright spark. Toofy Grin
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Norrin Radd wrote:
Lightning can get you 50 miles away.


What, in the mountains?? We're not in Kansas any more Toto.
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We're not in Kansas any more Toto.


I'm near certain that was a tornado rather than lightning. It would have been a crap movie if they had been struck by lightning.....very short
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Having been on a chairlift last year when a sudden lightning storm hit a nearby lift I wouldn't recommend it. Best case they shut everything down leaving you with a challenging trip home.
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If this is a serious post, I would say that lightening is far more likely to be attracted towards a lardy great steel lift pylon than an aluminium ski pole.
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https://wmo.asu.edu/content/two-new-lightning-extremes-announced

France, nearly 200 miles.

@Thornyhill, yes quite right.
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Thornyhill wrote:
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We're not in Kansas any more Toto.


I'm near certain that was a tornado rather than lightning. It would have been a crap movie if they had been struck by lightning.....very short


Literally.
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Should we get technical about how lightning conductors work? They don't 'attract' lightning. They offer a focus point which bleeds electrons from the sky which in turn negates the charged clouds. (This is the version for non nerds). I would be surprised if anything but the most severe storms could cause lightning in a ski resort covered in lightning conductors (aka pylons).

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http://youtube.com/v/zhu5pIrPw7U&t=36s
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If this is a serious post, I would say that lightening is far more likely to be attracted towards a lardy great steel lift pylon than an aluminium ski pole.


Yes it is sort of. I know someone who had a near miss waving a golf club in the air in a storm
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@Posidrive, that's just God having fun.
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Just get composite poles wink
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Ummmm...using carbon poles will not make any difference, it is a highly conductive material. All fisherman know to get out of the river, put your rid flat on the ground and get away from it when the lightening starts otherwise you are just carrying around a big lightening rod!
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geepee wrote:
Thornyhill wrote:
Norrin Radd wrote:
Lightning can get you 50 miles away.


Technically speaking it isn't 50 miles away any more.


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@geepee, we can always rely on you to have your ion the current thread. Wink
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You're not always going to be near pylons. Get off the ridge line quickly. At minimum, quicker than your buddy. Skullie
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I've seen snow forecasts show thunder/lightening fairly often but never seen it actually happen in resort.

@Alastair Pink, that's terrible even for you.
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@zikomo, didbt say carbon, said composite. If my £15 K2 poles have any significant carbon in them I'd be very surprised.
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Yes it is sort of. I know someone who had a near miss waving a golf club in the air in a storm


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@Posidrive, that's just God having fun.


Was he waving a 1 iron?
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How often do you get conditions that give lightning during the ski season? I can think of one, maybe two occasions when I've heard (distant) thunder while skiing. It really doesn't happen very often.

Summertime at the top of mountains is much more likely. I used to spent quite a lot of time at the top of Mt Etna and on loads of occasions had to stop work because of lightning as my research included walking around with a sensor on top of a 3m metal pole. I was a walking lightning rod Happy On a couple of occasions I was inside a cloud that was so highly charged with static electricity that the ground was buzzing (just like the sound you hear as you walk past an electricity sub-station), hair would literally stand on end, and opening the door of the land rover would sometimes cause a massive spark between the edge of the door back to the body of the 4x4. When lightning struck a ridge just above us as we walked to the summit, the loudest noise I've ever heard, we knew it was time to retreat. Quite a surreal experience.
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Carbon poles may well have a lightening effect, but what that has to do with lightning heaven only knows Toofy Grin
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When lightning struck a ridge just above us as we walked to the summit, the loudest noise I've ever heard, we knew it was time to retreat. Quite a surreal experience.


Had a strike in the back yard when living in Calgary. So loud, thought the house had exploded, how anyone ever survives a strike is beyond me. Looks like the general consensus is that as long as you don't do the "over here guys" pole wave then should be good. For once glad to be the short ar*e in the group Smile
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@rob@rar, I once had an interesting experience walking past one of the many little shrines to the Virgin Mary on a mountain near Garmisch. Mary was buzzing and I swear she was glowing a bit too. I took this as personal advice to get my ass into the nearby Hütte and not come out again until Mary calmed down a bit.
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This.
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Had a strike in the back yard when living in Calgary. So loud, thought the house had exploded, how anyone ever survives a strike is beyond me.
Know that feeling, although in my case my immediate reaction was that the volcano had suddenly exploded and I was pleased that my first reaction was to look up for falling rocks rather than run away or burst in to tears. I certainly understood the phrase "ringing in your ears" after that. A friend who had worked on Etna for years had been struck by lightning twice, but he explained that because there wasn't a great distance between the ground and the cloud (tall mountain, low cloud) the potential difference wasn't so great and the voltages involved not so high. Not sure if this is true or not, but my one experience of lightning up close is not something that I'd care to repeat.

Steilhang Laughing You can certainly understand how some natural phenonoma cause all sorts of non-scientific explanations when you witness something quite awe inspiring. A nighttime visit to an active volcano truly makes you think you are looking straight in to the Gates of Hell, and no doubt a glowing Mary makes some reach for the Holy Water.
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geepee wrote:
Thornyhill wrote:
Norrin Radd wrote:
Lightning can get you 50 miles away.


Technically speaking it isn't 50 miles away any more.


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@rob@rar, I am very impressed, that was a hair raising story! I am one of those freaks you see outside waiting for the next crack, I would have loved and hated what you did , all at the same time. ( I think I could be a tad weird)
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