 Poster: A snowHead
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So apparently this isn't normal. I figured this out after years of boarding.
The outside (pinkey side) of my front foot just kills me when I'm boarding. I can walk around in my boots all day long, no problem. It's just when I'm boarding. Any ideas as to what is causing this?
I have 32 Judge Boots. I ride 15-18 front and 5-8 rear (both forward facing).
I'm a decent boarder so I don't think it's my form causing it. I even had a lesson this season and the instructor didn't point anything out that I'm doing terribly wrong.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Trapped nerve from the instep binding strap probably. Possibly the toe strap unless you run cap straps.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Welcome to my world.....
Like you I have no issue in any other shoe or boot, except a ski boot.
I have tried many types of ski boots, some from very reputable ski boot shops, one pair of custom built boots....
And yet still suffer exactly the same. With varying types of custom foot beds.
Within 10 minutes my outside of foot tingles, then pins and needles and then in extreme times cramps.
This is one reason why I stay clear of T bars & button lifts, as a quick ride on a chair (whilst dangling skis to stretch feet / ankles / legs) will relieve the problem, some times to allow me to ski all day long without further issue, some times I have to have a coffee stop by 10:30 to 11 am & just get off my feet, which will again relieve the problem.
This is one reason why I have never ventured far off piste, as if the problem arises I need to get off my feet.
Trust me, this is better than it use to be, I have skied in agony in previous boots, cutting days short.
Part of the solution was to find (by luck) wider boots that help. I also use very thin socks (odd thicknesses, as one foot is slightly larger than the other).
Reputable Shops have tried thinning the foot bed, blowing the boot out to give more room and even cutting the foot bed away on the outside (none work).
Ensuring boots aren't too tight help - but doesn't solve the issue. Even after a "normal" day the following could be the opposite, cramping almost as soon as I ski....
Unfortunately I do not know the answer - if you find an answer I would be very interested...
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It's more of an ache than a nerve feeling.
And I have toe caps. It's mostly centered on the outside of my foot. Where the arch would be, but on the outside.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| noisey wrote: |
Welcome to my world.....
Like you I have no issue in any other shoe or boot, except a ski boot.
I have tried many types of ski boots, some from very reputable ski boot shops, one pair of custom built boots....
And yet still suffer exactly the same. With varying types of custom foot beds.
Within 10 minutes my outside of foot tingles, then pins and needles and then in extreme times cramps.
This is one reason why I stay clear of T bars & button lifts, as a quick ride on a chair (whilst dangling skis to stretch feet / ankles / legs) will relieve the problem, some times to allow me to ski all day long without further issue, some times I have to have a coffee stop by 10:30 to 11 am & just get off my feet, which will again relieve the problem.
This is one reason why I have never ventured far off piste, as if the problem arises I need to get off my feet.
Trust me, this is better than it use to be, I have skied in agony in previous boots, cutting days short.
Part of the solution was to find (by luck) wider boots that help. I also use very thin socks (odd thicknesses, as one foot is slightly larger than the other).
Reputable Shops have tried thinning the foot bed, blowing the boot out to give more room and even cutting the foot bed away on the outside (none work).
Ensuring boots aren't too tight help - but doesn't solve the issue. Even after a "normal" day the following could be the opposite, cramping almost as soon as I ski....
Unfortunately I do not know the answer - if you find an answer I would be very interested... |
I don't get tingling or anything, it just aches. I feel like I'm riding with all my weight on the outside of my foot or something.
When I had burton boots, they were too narrow and i had this way worse. I'm wondering if that's the problem. They feel fine on my feet when I'm not boarding though
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I had this a bit with flat bindings but now I'm using canted bindings it has gone. At about the same time I also changed to stiffer boots and from angles similar to your to a slight duck but I would just try some canted bindings in a shop for 10 minutes and see how it feels.
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| BoardieK wrote: |
| I had this a bit with flat bindings but now I'm using canted bindings it has gone. At about the same time I also changed to stiffer boots and from angles similar to your to a slight duck but I would just try some canted bindings in a shop for 10 minutes and see how it feels. |
that just sounds like it would make it better. I'll give it a whirl. Thanks!
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@noisey, i had huge issues with my wide feet until i bought these bad boys...
They have "stretchy" sides.
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@godspeed, Advice edited: I notice you have both feet forward. I can offer no advice for that position. I can ride that way, but its over-rated IMHO. Try a conventional set up for a day, see if it helps your feet.
Last edited by You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net. on Tue 17-01-17 14:02; edited 1 time in total
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i had this for years then an instructor adjusted my binding out by a degree or 2 which totally nailed it
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@scotspikey, The Head Edge I have, have improved things, but still not perfect.
I believe they are the widest (I have adjusted them as wide as they can go). My son has wide feet as well, but at the moment being younger can ski thro' it !!.
I've been checked for cant but I'm always told I don;t need it.
@godspeed, That sums it up - it feels just like skiing on the outside of the foot..
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@godspeed, Wondering how wide your stance is. If you've got a wide stance (perhaps too wide) it can cause your feet to ache as you're pushing out against your boots, rather than downwards against the soles and through the board. I got something similar when I tried to widened my stance a bit - narrowed it back down a little and the problem went away...
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@Richard_Sideways, You may have a point there... I ski a wide stance... Hmmmm.
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You know it makes sense.
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@noisey, Richard_Sideways was posting to godspeed who is a boarder.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Probably a little late now - but there is another thread about a company called Solutions 4 Feet based in Bicester - I had similar problems for years lots of reasons, and the closest I would get was a French Guy in Andorra who would customise boots for me, but there still weren't 'pain free' then a few years ago my wife got me a voucher and appt at Solutions 4 Feet - with Colin (owner) I cannot recommend him highly enough - and there are plenty of others here who feel the same... might be worth a try although the focus is more around Skiing than boarding but a call to him might help - he's also a fully trained/qualified Pedorthist.
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Poster: A snowHead
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@Padster, Thanks - I have visited Solutions 4 feet & used Colin, no complaints what so ever, however pain continues, even after several modifications (blowing out / heating & expanding) to boots, to their greatest extent. He is not the only qualified boot fitter that has failed to completely solve the issue. I've sort of resigned myself to the problem, as it has cost me a lot in time & money in the past, I was hoping that this thread my produce a solution / help or possibly even just therapy !!
It is very difficult to stand in a shop, off the slopes, to explain exactly the issue and whether any adaptations have solved or eased the problem, without skiing for a decent period.
As I said I have no complaints with Solutions 4 feet (I also recommend them to others), especially as he solved my wife's boot issues several years ago.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@noisey, that's a real shame, I had two 3hr visits, the second finally resolving the issue to the best it will ever be, Blown out boots, 'cutaway / floating footbeds' on the sides in question, extra room in the calf, a wedge under the heel, thinner socks - the correct way to fasten boots - oh and wearing them at home each year to get my feet used to them before I lock them into the boot for 6 solid days 
That said I now have the best experience I've ever had with boots, and as such like you will always recommend S4F & Colin.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@scotspikey, i also have a pair of Atomic Livefit 100's. perfect for my wide feet and high instep. just got back from 3V's yesterday and had a pain free week of skiing and on the last day we skied 30 miles from La Tania to Val T and back.
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Could be that your boots are too tight and bunching up your toes. Or could be hammer toes from lack of support around ball of foot and not big enough toe box. When I had something similiar to this some gel heel cups helped me quite a lot.
http://shoewawa.com/product/shoewawa-gel-heel-ups/
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