Poster: A snowHead
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First, apologies - I know it's the "what ski?" time of the year, and here's another thread!
I'm a strong skier (probably a 10 on the Inside Out scale), 182cm and 74kgs. I prefer shorter turns, like to use the terrain and contours of the hill, hit the odd jump / drop etc and play on any bit of soft snow I can find off the side of the piste, in the trees etc. I've got dedicated powder skis, so not looking for a one ski quiver, this is definitely focused on a fun everyday ski for firmer snow (so "normal" Alps conditions in between big dumps). I don't mind a bit of speed, but flat out, longer radius carving isn't my focus. Fun and playful is!
However, they'll be fitted with Dynafit Beasts and maybe used for the odd day tour or accessing sidecountry when conditions are variable, but primary focus isn't powder - I'll take out the big skis whenever I can.
I had been looking around 88mm width and initially had the Brahma at the top of my list, but reading reviews on this year's model worry that they're too much off a GS carver and a damp ski, with several reviewers noting they don't "pop" you from turn to turn, but are silky smooth when carving wide open, GS turns. Whitedot One's maybe fit the bill? Or maybe Black Crows Captis?
Anything else to be recommended from personal experience before I confuse myself even more with online reviews??
Thanks in advance!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Maybe you should try Atomic Vantage 90 CTI. In almost all ski test reviews they are among the best skis in category.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@Dashed, I love my brahma (2016) and don;t find them damp at all, in fact its a ski that you can really push with no issues in 'pop'. The 2016 build can still be found, but mainly in the US... shame about the $-£!!
Another ski to look at, a little narrower under foot would be the Scott Black Majic's. I haven't skied them myself, but are supposed to be an awesome ski.
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Scott The Ski would fit the "Fun and Playful" description...if the're not a touch too wide....if they are, the Black Magics listed above would probably be better.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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I've got Black Crow Ovas - love them. Great for hooning it about on piste and jumping off the side occasionally. 85mm under and signed pretty much for the purpose you have in mind.
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I also love my brahmas, and find that with their wood core and 2.5 layers of titanium they certainly do provide some pop, and you do need to stay on them.
Their sidecut radius IIRC is around 19m, so they don't throw you into a super tight turn, but I personally find a 12-13m SL type ski rather tiresome after a while, and the longer radius of the brahma more fun and playful on different snow conditions.
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I also love my brahmas, and find that with a wood core and 2.5 layers of titanium they certainly do provide some pop, and you do need to stay on them.
Their sidecut radius IIRC is around 19m, so they don't throw you into a super tight turn, but I personally find a 12-13m SL type ski rather tiresome after a while, and the longer radius of the brahma more fun and playful on different snow conditions.
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@Dashed, I don't know what size you need, but Absolute-Snow have some 15/16 Brahma in 166... assume that's too small?
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Am a similar size to the OP at 183cm / 75 kg and ski the 180 - which is spot on
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@gra, yea, I didn't read the OP fully and missed his stats
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Hmmmm, thanks folks - looks like the Brahma is worth another look! But will also check out some of the other skis mentions.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Volkl RTM 84 UVO rated in the 2017 Ski Club test:
This is a fantastic all mountain choice. It’s a supremely well balanced ski that feels perfectly weighted underfoot, this allows it to be easy to turn and effortless to adjust at anytime. While being easy at slower speeds, it’s also really capable when pushed on to higher speeds and bigger edge angles. The levels of grip on the piste are incredibly high, with great energy coming out of the turns while constantly delivering a smooth ride. In deeper, off trail conditions it pulls of the amazing trick of still feeling easy to use and can cope really well. This is an all mountain ski that really can work in every situation.
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Atomic Vantage 90 CTI on the same page:
For an all mountain ski, the Vantage has plenty of performance. It has a very reactive sidecut which engages quickly and then tears out some really impressive mid size arcs. It has high levels of edge hold, and really grips from the middle of the turn. For a ski that looks more backcountry orientated, it really delivers a high energy performance on the pistes. In deeper, off piste conditions it still works really well, with a wide shovel that gives instant float and easy pivoting. Overall a great all mountain ski which is incredibly well priced.
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You know it makes sense.
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@Dashed, I was going to say the Latigo in 184cms until I read the bit about the bindings. I tossed out (on ebay) most of my "quiver" skis and bought a ski just for "fun and playfull" in normal alps conditions. I also got the fat boys for those rare powder days I seem never to get.
Now the Latigo is a slimmer Brahma, but IMHO much more of a snappier piste focussed do-it-all. This does not mean to say it can do it all, but certainly on the hard pack, icy, groomers the Latigo has a wide range of the qualities you ask of a ski. Having demo'ed the 2015/16 Brahma I only found it a "nice" all-rounder that lacked "bite" and "verve/snap". At 74kgs you may just be a tad too light to get the best out of 2.5 layers of Titanium, but the Blizzards are meant to be skied long and you may get a tad knackered after a full-on days skiing. You'll love the Blizzard range, so don't dismiss the Latigos as being too "thin", they punch way above their waistline.
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