 Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Good little money making exercise....£10 a go online....make 'em a few Euros
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Not until the offenders have a police record/record in the country issuing the visa
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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If this had been published before the Brexit vote it would have been denounced as scare tactics.
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Well, we don't want EU passport holders to have unlimited access to the UK so the reverse can reasonably be expected to hold true - after all we (unfortunately) have more than our fair share of criminals of one sort or another, including terrorists.
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Already have a Visa.
It's in my wallet, in the slot next to my Mastercard.
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@stanton, when I drive from Zurich to St Anton/Lech I have to buy a vignette just in case I use the S16/Arlberg Tunnel. I see no reason why I should not buy the equivalent of a Personal Vignette to cross the EU countries if I choose to cross them post Brexit eventually.
IMAGINE..... Foreign lorries and cars needing a vignette to use the UK road infra-structure, or all EU citizens requiring a reciprocal Personal Vignette to visit the UK. There could be a sliding scale of a 10 day PV, a 30 day PV, 3 month PV, or a Year PV. These could also be cross-checked with the Criminal Justice Services in domicile EU countries so that our dodgy crims can have their movements monitored as they drive through France on their way to the crim villas on the Costa del Dodgy. And vice-versa. Need not be set up for Customs, just to ensure the UK is not subsidising pesky EU citizens who free-load entry to the UK.
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Really can't see this is bad, security checks to cross borders. For right or for wrong of course, once in the common area, you are good to go. Like the US system, I assume a one year or two year validity. Bigger queues at immigration mind.
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| skimastaaah wrote: |
@stanton,
IMAGINE..... Foreign lorries and cars needing a vignette to use the UK road infra-structure, or all EU citizens requiring a reciprocal Personal Vignette to visit the UK. There could be a sliding scale of a 10 day PV, a 30 day PV, 3 month PV, or a Year PV. These could also be cross-checked with the Criminal Justice Services in domicile EU countries so that our dodgy crims can have their movements monitored as they drive through France on their way to the crim villas on the Costa del Dodgy. And vice-versa. Need not be set up for Customs, just to ensure the UK is not subsidising pesky EU citizens who free-load entry to the UK. |
Lorries already have to pay a levy. I know, 'cos my daughter is the security director for the company with the contract.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And?
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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I have to get a visa now and then for some countries. If I was from Many countries it would be $2 approx for one country (not named). From UK is is $200 because it is run via a rip of useless company subcontracted to take the wee wee.
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Visas won't stop any of that - for a first time offender at least.
AND I'm not sure Brits have a monopoly on that kind of behaviour. I've seen many young Dutch in a state on holiday.
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You know it makes sense.
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For someone who 'won' Boris Johnson is looking a bit sheepish and quiet these days...
Deep down he knows Brexit will likely end up a shambles.
If we restrict movement of people then visas of some sort are probable as part of reciprocial tit for tat.
Shame no one predicted that in advance 
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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(1) she's a troll, don't feed her.
(2) It's a Schengen area thing, and we (and Ireland) are not in it. So nothing to do with Brexit, which she's trying to wind you up about.
She just hate it all.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Visas tend to be a tit for tat exercise - so if one side introduces so does the other....
Like with everything there are both pros and cons of this system
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Visas tend to be a tit for tat exercise
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Indeed - and stopping "free movement" from EU countries presumably implies some kind of visa/work permit arrangements.
I suffered from the introduction by Australia of visas for Brits (because so many overstayed). The FCO strongly protested and insisted that, when I had to transit Australia on government business, they wouldn't apply for a visa. They gave me a haughtily worded letter instead which went down like a ton of hot shite. The Australian immigration officials knew they couldn't afford to detain me for long, but they make it uncomfortable and kept me waiting a long time. I was going to stay with my sister in law in Perth overnight, and she was meeting me. She thought something had gone wrong and I'd missed the flight because all the other passengers, and their bags, had gone and there wasn't a bag belonging to me. She was surprised to find I was travelling with hand baggage as she always needs at least 3 outfits a day.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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It'll be reciprocal. You can bet your life on that...
It's in everyone's interests to either retain freedom of movement (unlikely) or for the UK treat EU nationals the same as non-visa nationals (i.e. Americans, Canadians etc). They do not need a visa to enter the UK (in most circumstances) but do need permission from a Border Force Officer (i.e. a stamp in their passport).
We already have visa waivers for certain Gulf states that costs about £15 a go. They just fill an online form in and submit it...
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do need permission from a Border Force Officer (i.e. a stamp in their passport
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Unless the government plans to require something more than a stamp in the passport on entry it's difficult to see how it will make any difference to the numbers of immigrants from the EU.
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| pam w wrote: |
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do need permission from a Border Force Officer (i.e. a stamp in their passport
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Unless the government plans to require something more than a stamp in the passport on entry it's difficult to see how it will make any difference to the numbers of immigrants from the EU. |
Presumably Hurdy was only referring to the entry requirements for tourist visitors? I believe the Americans and Canadians she referred to as examples need more than an entry stamp in order to come to the UK to work?
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I think all Brits should boycott France in say 2018 - the impact on their economy will have them voting against visas
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Why not Spain, Greece, Austria, Portugal, etc too?
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..and a little stamp in your passport to show how much money you have converted into foreign. 
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Do americans have to have a visa to enter EU on short term Hols?? Id expect us to have to do the same as them!
Id jexpect us to have the same 90day rule
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No they don't
general rules:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_policy_of_the_Schengen_Area
But you have these funny British 2. class passports:
Officially referred to as "BRITISH CITIZENS WHO ARE NOT NATIONALS OF THE UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTHERN IRELAND FOR THE PURPOSES OF UNION LAW: British nationals (Overseas), British overseas territories citizens (BOTC) British overseas citizens (BOC) British protected persons (BPP) and British subjects (BS)'." REGULATION (EU) No 509/2014 OF THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT AND OF THE COUNCIL
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You know it makes sense.
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Some of the comments about this are absurd. Andy Burnham was particularly laughable, saying that the Brexit campaign had never warned people that they might be facing a "holiday tax" of £50 a holiday.
Well, fancy that! All those voters were deluded into thinking we could keep the nasty foreigners out with nobody being at all difficult with us in return.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Yes, it is quite intertaining to read all this. 
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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personally, I don't care what arrangements are in place (now or in the future) between the U.K. and ANY other territories, as long as they are equal in financial value and fairness between each country.
for instance As far as I believe, you cannot travel to the U.S. if you have a criminal record, and no more than 90 days on a tourist visa whilst proving you have a return ticket and funds to support you, I would hope this is the same for U.S. citizens coming over the pond.
Also, if you have certain visas for Australia, you have to work for 90 days in the agricultural industry generally doing low paid, back breaking work in the back of beyond.
maybe we can introduce those rules to antipodeans coming over here, it may solve this countries agricultural labour shortage!!!!!!
And again, if indeed right hand vehicles are to be subjected to surcharges on the continent (though I presume not Eire reg plates!!) I hope it would be reciprocal
come to think about it, this Brexit malarkey could wipe out unemployment in a stroke across all of Europe with all the bureaucrats employed enforcing regulations and collecting fees.
Every silver lining!!!
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@terrygasson - we didn't need brexit to change the visa rules for US or Australians coming to the UK.....
Could have been done 20 years ago if the government wished
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@Hyst, it would be interesting to find out from anyone on here what it was like to travel into Europe before the EU existed, was it a Bureaucratic nightmare with visas etc?
I remember having to have my passport stamped going to Spain a few times in the early 80's, I actually quite miss not having my passport stamped.
I still cherish my old passport from the mid 90's when I travelled through the middle east and Africa and show the kids from time to time.
with biometric and data technology so advanced nowadays, I am sure it would not be much of a hassle!!!
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It comes to something when HMG's defensive briefing is to assure people that "almost no decisions have been made".  Well, that's OK then. And scarcely a surprise!
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[quote="terrygasson"]@Hyst, it would be interesting to find out from anyone on here what it was like to travel into Europe before the EU existed, was it a Bureaucratic nightmare with visas etc?
I remember having to have my passport stamped going to Spain a few times in the early 80's, I actually quite miss not having my passport stamped.
I still cherish my old passport from the mid 90's when I travelled through the middle east and Africa and show the kids from time to time.
with biometric and data technology so advanced nowadays, I am sure it would not be much of a hassle!!![/quwhoote]
No it was quite easy - excepted when we visited the old GDR in the 60's.
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The UK is going Backwards not Forward.
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| pam w wrote: |
| Why not Spain, Greece, Austria, Portugal, etc too? |
Because you want to play the EMF game where you'd pick on one country at a time until the capitulate. Then Spain, then Greece etc etc.
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