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(or more specifically those coming to Utah next week)
1. Lift queues.
These will only be found first thing in the morning on a couple of the base lifts. Once on the mountain, they do not exist.
When in a lift queue, or "lift line" to use the local parlance, you will find that it is organised into sections. If there is not a liftie there to call people forward, then you must alternate with the section beside you when they merge together.
Do not ski up to or over the person in front's skis. Stay behind their tails.
2. Foot rests/bars on lifts.
If there is one fitted, and you want to use it, please ask the rest of the people on the chair. (normally something like "do you mind if I bring the bar down") Many people ride the chairs without using the bar, and may be leaning forward. They really don't like being hit on the head.
3. Beer/Apres Ski.
In most bars (apart from really expensive hotels), beer will be similarly priced to the UK, i.e. around the £2.50 per pint mark. You should tip when buying, so paying $5 inc tip for a pint, still works out at under £3. You can also get pitchers of beer, which hold about 4 pints and cost the same as 3.
4. If there is major snowfall overnight.
Many people will take "powder days" off work if the conditions are good. Also, there are no friends on powder days, so don't expect me to wait around too much at the base...
5. Language barriers.
The instructors speak ENGLISH (or a very close relation to it) as their first language, as do most staff in the resort. Some words you may want to remember:
Restroom = toilet
Line = queue
Check = bill
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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1. Queues. After my initial shock at the lack of manners in Europe, I decided to throw myself, wholesale, into the whole barging and queue jumping scene. I'm now quite good and am therefore saddened that the only mountain skill in which I excell will not be on display for our cousins to marvel at.
2. Footrests. Even in Europe I shout "Watch yer 'ead!" which seems to suffice. I presume such a warning will be acceptable.
3. Ale. Do you tip even if you're stood at the bar? I tip waiters, but didn't know that the delivery of suds a mere 8/12" warranted extra payment. Also, is it true that the beer in Utah is slightly less alcaholic than shandy?
4. Powder. I don't want friends as they'll just laugh or curse my pathetic attempts to ski it. If I'm not at the evening meal then please advise the patrol to follow the brown staining down the slopes 'till they locate my corpse.
5. Language. Even in England we don't all speak the same English. My forays onto Epic also show that these people have expresions I am not aware of. I am looking forward to immersing myself in the local culture and hope they don't mind me leckin' abaht like a reet wassock = gaper.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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6. Beer. If you've never visited Utah, USA, you will never know how hard it is to find a decent drink. For those outside of the United States, this state will seem to be exceptionally bizarre.
For those of you who live within the US, but outside of Utah, it will be slightly less confusing. If all you want to drink is watery beer then Utah's got you covered. If you want a mixed drink, or if you like good beer, then you must be a member of a private club (or in real world vernacular, a bar). Failing that, you must be the guest of a bar member.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A279731
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gregh, I guess you've been there a lot. 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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nah, don't remind me WTFH, stopped off for a weekend in between 2 work trips on the worst snow record for years, warm and no freshies 
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marc gledhill,
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1. Queues. After my initial shock at the lack of manners in Europe, I decided to throw myself, wholesale, into the whole barging and queue jumping scene. I'm now quite good and am therefore saddened that the only mountain skill in which I excell will not be on display for our cousins to marvel at.
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Heh heh heh, this is one technique I've mastered as well. Trust me, when you're my size, no-one TRIES to get past you, as they've got no bloody chance 
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| Wear The Fox Hat wrote: |
2. Foot rests/bars on lifts.
If there is one fitted, and you want to use it, please ask the rest of the people on the chair. (normally something like "do you mind if I bring the bar down") Many people ride the chairs without using the bar, and may be leaning forward. They really don't like being hit on the head.
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Interesting: I've seen them stop the lift in Europe because someone hasn't pulled down the safety bar: they got shouted at lots! And I always thought the US was more safety-conscious than Europe. Hey ho.
Ant
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gregh, ah, you miss the wrinkles.
You don't need to be a member if you are drinking (and eating) in restaurant.
Nor if you are drinking in a brewpub - of which there are quite a few in Utah. Quite a few. Clearly, being brewed in UT means the beer loses it's demonic side effects and your soul will float upwards unlike those who are drinking guinness whose soul will follow the bubbles downwards, etc.
You can't get beer stronger than 3.7% anywhere in UT but the local "real" ales are very hoppy to compensate - some are really quite nice. That said, Budweiser (the A-B version) at 3.7% is just slightly less tasty than water. You probably get p*ssed quicker on water too.
Also, you can join any "club" by paying the appropriate fee (typically when I was there of $5 a night or $10 a week). I understand a member can sign up to something like 10 people in - so if you're pub crawling it just takes a little co-ordination.
I think the rationale on the whole think is somewhere along the lines that if you're stupid enough to buy into "Intelligent Design", than a few arcane rules will prevent alcoholism.
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Wear The Fox Hat, What if you want the bar down and they don't? I get vertigo (and the attendant symptom of wanting to jump off things), I MUST close the bar - I couldn't even go up a lift without one!  Does this mean that I can never ski Utah???
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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easiski, most people are happy to let you bring the bar down, it's just that some people will jump on the lift, and pull the bar down without considering the others, and it can lead to sore heads and arms.
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| Wear The Fox Hat wrote: |
| .....there are no friends on powder days..... |
No friends eh? So it's okay to get up half an hour earlier than your roomie & 'borrow' his fatties whilst he's still sleeping
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You know it makes sense.
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spyderjon, linds doesn't have fatties... (but she will have new skis when she arrives in the 'bird!)
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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easiski,
Last time I was there some lifts didn't even have bars....!!!!!!
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Poster: A snowHead
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easiski, I get exactly the same thing. Maybe I am a soul-clone of Scott Schmidt? When I skied Utah, for all of 4 days, the bar was down each and every time. Will report back in a month on current situation...
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Sounds a bit daft to me. If a kid falls off, who's liable?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I don't think that there's a any reason why 3.7% beer shouldn't taste decent. Budweiser could be 37% and it would still taste of nothing.
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richmond, can you not taste the difference between, say, a strongly mixed vodka soda and a weakly mixed vodka soda? If you can, how would a strong beer and a weak beer be any different? Low % beers simply taste watery/weak/unsatisfying, not to mention the fact that weak beer = need to drink more = need to pee more
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| ponder wrote: |
| richmond,Low % beers simply taste watery/weak/unsatisfying |
I disagree with that statetment. I personally don;t like the curent trend towards "new improved increased strength" lagers - I used to love heinekin when it was a mere 3.2%, then it went away and came back at 5% and it's bloody awful, tastes like stella.
I don;t drink beer to just get leathered, I actually like to drink beer and get just a slight buzz - it used to be that four or five pints of heinekin would be great, but not any more
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nbt, Nail on head. That's my theory re 'binge drinking' The beers to strong
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Ice cold Bud with a bar b on a hot day -delish.
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| ponder wrote: |
| = need to drink more |
If you have a NEED to drink more, then you have a problem with alcohol.
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ponder, I think that you're drinking the wrong beers.
1. Weaker beers may taste different, but not necessarily worse.
2. The difference in alcohol content between a strong and weak vodka and soda (soda?) is much greater than between a 3.7% and, say, a 4.5% beer.
3. With mixed spirits, and vodka and soda (soda?) especially, the alcohol itself is a major component of the flavour, less so with beer.
4. The strength of a bottle of spirits is fixed, so reducing the alcohol content of a mixed drink dilutes the flavour. Beer is brewed to its final strength, so to some extent the flavour can be controlled independently of the alcohol content.
5. I try to avoid getting pissed when I drink (old age) so a beer I can drink more of without getting pissed is an attraction.
Try, for example, Fullers Chiswick Bitter (thin on the ground in Utah, I suspect); 3.5% and a very good pint. Fullers london Pride, the benchmark for decent beer, is 4.1%. I'm not keen on the 4.5+% beers, maybe one or two every now and then.
If you just want to get pissed, I'd stick to vodka and soda, or just vodka. Have you tried Bacardi Breezers?
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richmond, London Pride? the benchmark for good beer? Nice, but hardly a benchmark !!!
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Helen Beaumont, to each their own. For large scale production, it's my fave. Your preference?
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brian
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PG, what about if an adult falls off? They're more expensive than kids.
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You know it makes sense.
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| richmond wrote: |
| PG, what about if an adult falls off? They're more expensive than kids. |
Kind of assumed that an adult would/should have the nous to ask that the bar be lowered, while for an unaccompanied child it's not quite the same situation.
Last edited by You know it makes sense. on Tue 24-01-06 13:17; edited 1 time in total
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richmond, Fuller's ESB actually.
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Poster: A snowHead
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We're putting on a batch of home-brewed ESB this weekend. I should justify that I don't find London Pride travels up north very well. my all-time favourite though is a Marston's brew called Merry Monk, but you don't find it very often.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Helen Beaumont, you're obviously in the ponder high alcohol camp. Quite apart from the consequences of drinking too much 5.5% beer, I prefer the taste of Pride.
What's this about home brew ESB?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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richmond, I only drink it by the half-pint. Hubby has a recipe book for homebrew, you have to buy all the ingredients hops, malt etc, none of your wussy kits. he hasn't made any for a while, but the tennagers are keen to learn the tricks of the trade. The ESB was most successful, along with a batch of Chimay.
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| richmond wrote: |
| PG, what about if an adult falls off? |
Bigger mogul, that's all. 
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Helen Beaumont, sounds facinating. Does it taste like the original? What's the book? Do Fullers know?
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richmond, yes it does, it's called How to brew beers like those you buy.
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Good name, really, when you think about it. Thanks.
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You can't beat a decent pint of Timothy Taylors Landlord, which I suspect has never appeared in Utah
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