 Poster: A snowHead
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Noticed that a couple of posts have mentioned this drying out thing.
I have one pair of Salomons which let in quite a lot of snow-melt, even though I brush the snow off each time I get on a chairlift. I have another pair of Salomons which seal very well and don't do this. I have a pair of Atomics which simply P++s snow in. Always running with water at the end of a day. I also have feet which are quite normal: 250,000 sweat glands
http://www.everydayhealth.com/foot-health-pictures/funky-feet-facts.aspx
giving off 1/2 pint a day...
http://patient.info/health/sweaty-feet
as a result of external and internal drenching, my liners are always pretty darn wet by the end of the day. As are my ten year old son's. We have to artificially heat the lines to get them dry for the next day and commit heresy: the liners get pulled out and go on the radiator overnight, every night. This has been hailed by some as 'exactly the thing NOT to do' - but we deem it essential, as wet liners in the morning give VERY cold boots after a few minutes on the hill. My partner and daughter, by contrast, have dry liners at the end of each day. My question is this...do you think they are aliens?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Just buy a boot dryer. Less effort.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I take my liners out every night when skiing, and use my Thermo boot warmers in the room - toasty and dry in the morning. If I leave them in then there's nowhere for the moisture to go and they don't dry the same. 10 secs to get in and out, no drama!
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| maggi wrote: |
| Just buy a boot dryer. Less effort. |
+1
An anti-perspirant foot spray also helps (must be anti-perspirant, not just deodorant). I've also heard of people using a piece of duct tape where the shell doesn't seal well at the joint over the front of the foot.
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@Mosha Marc, I had some kind guests who accidentally left a pair of similar behind. very nice. They were Russian, never answered any emails so finders keepers
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I take my liners out too (if I have the chance) ... I didn't know it was a sin!
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If you need them out to dry go for it. It should not do them any harm at all. Also +1 for the duct tape across the front of the join.
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@DrLawn, I suspect the 'sin' is putting them on the radiator rather than taking them out of the shells.
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@halfhand, ....nope...this appears in many medical texts as a common amount.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@Tubaski, ....yes....that's the thing which upsets people...'you can't put thermal linings on a radiator!!!...'
Actually it makes them kind of plump and cosy...
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You know it makes sense.
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@valais2, I guess it depends on the temperature of the radiator. I think (but, disclaimer, am not sure) many deform above 60 degrees C.
There was a posting recently where someone had deformed their footbeds drying them on a radiator IIRC.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I've always struggled with this one - I'm not buying/carting around Boot Warmers for five sets of boots. Balled up newspaper seems to take out a lot of the moisture, if followed up with them propped over the radiator for the evening, but even then I have to resort to pulling out the liners very second/third day, particularly when skiing at Easter. Always wondered if there's a market for big bags of silica gel to do this more effectively.
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Poster: A snowHead
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| Tubaski wrote: |
@valais2, I guess it depends on the temperature of the radiator. I think (but, disclaimer, am not sure) many deform above 60 degrees C.
There was a posting recently where someone had deformed their footbeds drying them on a radiator IIRC. |
Oh yeah - that was me too 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| Tubaski wrote: |
| @DrLawn, I suspect the 'sin' is putting them on the radiator rather than taking them out of the shells. |
Yes and no. No big deal leaving a liner on a radiator but better to leave it in front of the radiator overnight rather than on it. However, do NOT leave custom footbeds in the liner if it's ON the radiator because they will deform over time.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Yep, get these (which I have), or similar.
They're brilliant. Leave in boots overnight, toasty feet the next day. Done.
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Boot dryers dry the inside of the liner, not the outside.
The outside or the liner will dry in an hour or so just hanging up in your room - no need to place on radiator.
I always remove the liners at the end of the day, hang them up for an hour or so, then replace.
(Pour out any water that has accumulated inside the boot shell.)
Then in the morning, first thing as i get up is switch on the Boot Warmers.
By the time you've had breakfast boots are warm dry and cozy.
Luxury start to the day. 
Combine this routine with washing your socks every evening, and say goodbye to smelly boots (and smelly socks).
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Heated boot bags are nice, do a good job of drying and warming boots, gloves, hats, goggles, etc.
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Underfloor heating is also good for drying them out. 
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Jon, can you bring me a set of these to EOSB please?
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or go the full geek like me and use a heated boot bag AND a Thermic air dryer
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@andyman, will do matey.
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@Jonpim, ...good routine...agree entirely about inner and outer wetness - our radiators run pretty cool by the time we get the chalet up to temp, and so putting them on our very tall rads, close to the ceiling, works fine - but indeed the temp is pretty low - they all have room stats on them, set to 20. @Hells Bells, ...yes, underfloor would give about the same heating effect.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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And if the boots leak badly like my Lange boots (now in Poubelle) heaters only heated the water up that had collected in the base of the shell - they never did dry out, so toasty feet for 5 minutes followed by cold ones for the rest of the day. So - yes - it was liners out every night.
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You know it makes sense.
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This has been hailed by some as 'exactly the thing NOT to do'
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Never heard this? I take my out everyday. Have you tried putting duct tape on the toes
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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New boots.
Visit the doc.
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Poster: A snowHead
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@moseyp, ...gosh correct use of 'duct tape' and not 'duck tape' - excellent.
yes, but gave up with the Atomics since they are 'watertfall' boots - Livefit 90s - Very gappy. And it sticks for such a short time that balls of gaffer tape when hooking the liners out can be a right pain.
My various Salomons are tolerable as long as I sweep snow off the tops of the boots after powder sessions and other snow types which accumulate on the top of the boot - and then follow the drying routine overnight.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I think they're both correct, duct or duck...but either way where are you putting it that it gets on the liner? I use it over the toebox (on the shell)
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@moseyp, ...ah...light goes on...in the past we have used it on the OUTSIDE of the LINER, over the top of the liner and seams in the tongue-boot junction.
So...in climbing we flaunt gaffer tape with pride, so I think you are suggesting I ski with gaffer tape stuck all over the front of my boots. I think I will have to steel myself to do that, this is skiing, not climbing after all....(what's the French for '...here comes gaffer-tape boy...?)
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Go to Are - most accommodation has boot driers. 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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I had same issue with leaking boots, fixed it with a piece of neoprene over the front of the boot, I removed the lower clips that I don't use and put a couple of hooks at the front to latch the neoprene onto, but any of the generic boot glove products would do the same. Found that most of the moisture was the snow getting in, not much from sweating that a warm boot room overnight didn't fix.
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valais2, Watch any World Cup race, you will see a few racers with duct tape on the outside of the shells. I have a nice roll of black tape that matches the shell colour.
I thought that Duck was a brand of duct tape.
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@rjs, ...yes, Duck Tape indeed is duct tape, but not all duct tape is Duck Tape. And now, in the States, not all Duck Tape is duct tape. Gaffer tape, however, since climbers tend to be very literal, always is gaffer tape, thank goodness. ...except when Andy Kirkpatrick refers to it....
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You definitely need to sort out the faulty boots before worrying about how to dry them. Not a great idea to remove the liners more than necessary IMO.
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I always remove liners from boots and place them on boot dryer in pension and place the shells on the floor of the boot room. Done this for years without problems and everything is nicely dried each morning.
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| Jonpim wrote: |
Combine this routine with washing your socks every evening, and say goodbye to smelly boots (and smelly socks). |
or bring enough socks for the trip.... obviously an issue for season folks but trippers sholud own at least a pair of socks for each day
Last edited by Ski the Net with snowHeads  on Wed 13-04-16 15:45; edited 1 time in total
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250ml per day seems an awful lot of sweat 
