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Oh well 2016 not off to the best of starts! Me and the kids went to Tamworth fridge today, first turn on the first run (nice empty slope as we were one of the first ones up the lift) and talbyem my 16yo snowboarding daughter topples over, lands a bit tangled but thinks nothing of it. But by the bottom of the slope has to sit down and is white as sheet and her left wrist already about 50% bigger than the right! Very good help from the Snowdome first aider and after a trip to casualty she is now in plaster with a broken wrist. Though totally the right attitude, is trying to work out how to persuade the quacks how an Easter trip to the mountains is the best possible rehab (as long as she is wearing her usual wrist guard mitts which for reasons even she doesn't know she wasn't today!)
Last edited by Poster: A snowHead on Fri 1-01-16 23:31; edited 1 time in total
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@davkt, no idea on how the timescales work..but easter is 12 weeks away. ...That's inside healing time isn't it?
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A&E doc said the pot would be on for 6 weeks, Em is going to have a chat with the fracture clinic doctor when she goes to have the full cast on on Wednesday. toastertalbot her 11 yo sister broke her forearm on the last day of the summer term last year, was out of the cast in the last week of of the summer hols and told to avoid sports for 3 or 4 weeks and be careful after that so hopefully Easter with the mitts should be ok as long as she stays off the kickers, rails and the likes!
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Wrists can be awkward. Scaphoid?
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Nope, A&E just said broken wrist but from what I saw of the x ray it looked to be a crack across the corner of the wide part of the end of her radius.
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Sounds like enough time if it's a small fracture. I went back to slopes sooner after breaking wrist at Tamworth. But I did find some very supportive (actually very restrictive) dainese hector wrist guards instead of my usual in glove ones.
Official line from clinic was not to do it, but they were happy for me to board against their advice, especially as doctor was keen snowboarder.
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12 wks, won't be an issue as long as she looks after it and there are no complications. All A&E would advocate no sport where you could get an injury as then they don't have to put it right. I would never even tell them I did something playing sport as it's an unwritten policy that sports injuries are self inflicted, not top priority.
I would get some extra support for it when you go and start drinking loads of milk and calcium, this will feed the injury and give it plenty of fuel for recovery. It's a bone, they love calcium.
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My daughter broke scaphoid playing basketball two months before she was due to do the Tall Ships Race. She was warned that slow healing could require a second 6 weeks in plaster and so it transpired and she had to pull out. You need two optimally functioning wrists on a boat which is obviously not the case with snowboarding but a wrist splint of some kind - which would need to be pretty restrictive to be effective - would obviously be worthwhile.
Good luck with the healing. And don't forget to inform your insurance company.
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Thanks, she normally wears Dakine wrist guard mitts anyway, just for some reason didn't yesterday (probably only the second or third time in 6 years of snowboarding she has ridden without them!)
Pam, yep, I'm a big boat sailor as well so know what you mean!
@CAPTA1N P, think in casualty yesterday a sports injury made a nice change from all the self inflicted alcohol related injuries that were still drifting in late afternoon so she was seen pretty quickley (certainly much less than the 3 hours they were saying the wait time would be, only around 90 min from getting there to leaving.
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You had a result.
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I've seen no evidence that sports injuries are given lower priority. Though when I had an x ray in fracture clinic in Portsmouth 5 weeks after fractured pelvis in France the technician said I was her fourth ski injury that morning and couldn't understand why we did it.
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Mrs SL broke her radius snowboarding on 31/12 a few years ago. She had to have two operations to fix it, but was back skiing (will apparently not be snowboarding again) 1st week in April. Mrs SL is somewhere over 3 x your daughter's age. Just make sure your insurance is ok and don't ask the medics if she will be ok to snowboard, in case they say no and then she is boarding against medical advice.
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I was always told by a relation who ran an A&E to never tell them it was done playing sport and that was the reason why. I have no reason to disbelieve her as she was my mother.
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You know it makes sense.
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davkt wrote: |
@CAPTA1N P, think in casualty yesterday a sports injury made a nice change from all the self inflicted alcohol related injuries that were still drifting in late afternoon so she was seen pretty quickley (certainly much less than the 3 hours they were saying the wait time would be, only around 90 min from getting there to leaving. |
Obviously all depends on triage nurse but if her wrist was as big as you say then it almost certainly took a higher rank than a few grizzly cuts and sprained ankles of the hungover masses.
Guess your daughter has learnt the awkward lesson of always wearing the wrist guards. You often learn best from mistakes when there are consequences. I made a similar mistake when falling off my pushbike after a few (or 10) pints. The trip home in an ambulance (nothing broken but a cut on my ear had to be treated) was enough to teach me that I was an absolute idiot and I no longer take my bike to the pub...although tbf it really shouldn't have taken an injury to convince me it was a stupid idea.
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It was pretty obvious what she'd been doing when she did it as she was still wearing bright yellow snowboard pants and her snowboard boots! It was 30 min or so to see the triage nurse then just short waits for xray and getting plastered up once the pictures were ready.
@SnoodyMcFlude, Yep, she really doesn't know why she wasn't wearing them, fate must have decided it was her day for a broken wrist!
@Ski lots, our GP is a skier and is rather understanding of such things so shouldn't be a problem!
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@davkt,
Glad to hear it's working out. Fwiw, I broke my scaphoid this time last year (actually, on about a Monday) and was skiing a week later) prob not recommended, but was a 2 week holiday. Tbf, kids bones heal quick, 4 weeks sounds reasonable, but suggest she works on the muscles asap. Muscles seem to waste faster than bone...
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@davkt,
If you don't ask them the question then they can't advise against it
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@musher, Unfortunately the kids are with ex this week so goodness knows what she will ask!
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@davkt, Hope you are not in trouble for breaking the kids!
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She'll be fine, I broke my ankle end of November one season, was back on a board by March...
Might be worth practicing falling over properly without the hands stuck out to take the impact. Do it enough times and it starts to become an unconscious movement which can help prevent further injury.
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She is normally fine with the falls, this was just one of those that was over before the automatic reflex had time to get the hand out of the way, more a case of landing on it rather than sticking it out
@genepi, well guess this makes us even as Ex was in charge of the kids when toastertalbot broke her arm on last day of the summer term last year! Though knowing the ex had that not happened first yep I'd be in trouble!
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davkt wrote: |
Oh well 2016 not off to the best of starts! Me and the kids went to Tamworth fridge today, first turn on the first run (nice empty slope as we were one of the first ones up the lift) and talbyem my 16yo snowboarding daughter topples over, lands a bit tangled but thinks nothing of it. But by the bottom of the slope has to sit down and is white as sheet and her left wrist already about 50% bigger than the right! Very good help from the Snowdome first aider and after a trip to casualty she is now in plaster with a broken wrist. Though totally the right attitude, is trying to work out how to persuade the quacks how an Easter trip to the mountains is the best possible rehab (as long as she is wearing her usual wrist guard mitts which for reasons even she doesn't know she wasn't today!) |
That certainly sounds feasible if an undisplaced radius fracture.
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Thanks Jonathan,
I think that is what it is, to my untrained eye the xrays they showed us looked as though the bone was cracked but both bits where it should be, took the xrays to confirm she had actually broken it unlike her 2 sisters with their breaks in the past where it was very obvious just looking at their forearms there was a break.
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Forget the wrist guards learning to fall properly is the most important thing, drill it into them to use their forearms.
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She knows how to fall, this one was just over so quick even the reflex actions didn't get her arm out of the way before hitting the deck
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francium. wrote: |
Forget the wrist guards learning to fall properly is the most important thing, drill it into them to use their forearms. |
Ahem. There are published studies that prove that wrist guards reduce wrist fractures.
Jonathan Bell
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Well it was a bit worse than A&E seemed to think, kids back with me for the weekend now so have Em's report from the fracture clinic. The bones were displaced (took laughing gas and a load of prodding and poking rather than anything more drastic to put them back where they should be). Em was too away with the fairies from the gas to ask about recovery times but says first off the doc took some convincing it was a snowboard injury, it looked more like the result of a fall from height, and they shortened to time she'd be in plaster from the 6.5 weeks A&E said to 5.5 weeks.
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davkt wrote: |
Well it was a bit worse than A&E seemed to think, kids back with me for the weekend now so have Em's report from the fracture clinic. The bones were displaced (took laughing gas and a load of prodding and poking rather than anything more drastic to put them back where they should be). Em was too away with the fairies from the gas to ask about recovery times but says first off the doc took some convincing it was a snowboard injury, it looked more like the result of a fall from height, and they shortened to time she'd be in plaster from the 6.5 weeks A&E said to 5.5 weeks. |
I would occasionally leave kids in plaster an extra week so they could ski with it on.
Not conventional but may be worth asking.
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It is more like 6 weeks from cast coming off to our trip, she has asked for a few extra days as they wanted to take it off on the Friday exactly 5 weeks after she did it but she is off to a gig that weekend and plans on being right at the front so wanted some extra protection for it!
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12 weeks should be plenty of healing time and as you say she wears guards anyway. I would check your insurance details tho to be on the safe side in case they need to be informed of the break. My daughter broke her hand 5 weeks before our ski trip, although not fully healed, the physiotherapist made her a special plastic splint that left her fingers free. She basically skied one handed and was still faster than myself and my husband lol.
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Well wrist is now out of cast and feels OK, she took the approach @musher suggested with the fracture clinic and didn't mention snowboarding, they said no PE for 3 weeks so she is planning on a trip back to the snowdome mid March ish. Then we are off to Trysil at Easter as she says she'd be too tempted to push it maybe a bit too hard on our usual Easter hangout of Les 2 Alpes, so wanted somewhere new and different to try. And she now has Demon Flexmeter double sided wrist guards which certainly seem a step up from the Dakine mitts that have kept her wrists in one piece (when she remembered to wear them) up till now!
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Trysil is fabulous, really loved there....which area are you staying
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@warbis66, Thanks, staying at the Raddison Blu as we got a very good deal through Skisafari, hotel, flights, transfers and lift passes for what I'd normally allow for just hotel and flights in the French Alps. Just me and the kids going so not worried booze is stupid expensive in Norway and always like visiting a country new to me!
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