Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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They call it the Human Factor but is it not the same as Heuristic Traps which is how this subject is covered on various avalanche courses (not your one nighters I hasten to add) and in relevant reference books?
I'm listening to it and am amazed how they have not referred to the phrase heuristic, it's like they are going out of their way to not mention it, or at least they could say that "human factor" is a better more accessible phrase, is it patented or somthing?
I'll dig out a couple of links, or Google heuristic traps
In fact here's one from some ski site
http://pistehors.com/backcountry/wiki/Avalanches/Heuristic-Traps
Oooooohhhh hold the press, they mentioned it at 19mins into it, though just the once !
So listened to it all, think they possibly could have got more experience on the discussion panel, for instance a UIAGM guide with 20yrs experience etc
The ski patrol girl with ten years so called experience was too damn condecending with a look at me aren't I the pro looking down on people attitude, which a guide never says but might be thinking, and at the end of the day a fair percentage of fatalities involved very experienced people.
Have to admit to geeting a wee bit skeptical with regard to HAT it's getting too business led / driven me thinks.......
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Interestingly the video has dissapeared. Henry has a habit of posting stuff, like the Ste Foy avalanche in January then having second thoughts and taking the video down.
Anyway thanks for taking the trouble to watch and comment. I was interested in the Pyrenean patroller. A colleague of hers, Arnaud Trinquier has a very philosophical approach to his job (until October he was head of piste services at Tignes but came from the Pyrenees and has returned to the Cambre d’Az this winter). He doesn't really believe anymore in all this prevention and education, at least not as far as pisteurs are concerned. He says skiers will do what they do and his job is to help skiers who ask for advice, make sure the dangers are clear and to be ready to pick up the pieces if things go wrong.
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Human factors are always the biggest factor an accidents. Airlines invest heavily in it to ensure people make the right decisions at the right times.
I used to fly motorised paragliders. It was interesting to see the same human factors in play:
If you were in a group you sometimes took more risks or flew in conditions aboce your ability levle
If you saw somebody take to the sky you assumed it was safe for you to do so in the same weather.
As you got a bit more experienced you often got more complacent. (high accident rate for 50-100 hour pilots)
Everybody had a different risk/reward threshold -those with the lowest tend to have the most incidents
People. often unwisely, took bigger risks with more saftey gear.
You could take to the sky in clear weather and get caught in something nasty later on - A bit like starting at the top of a mountain without knowing the conditions lower down, where you were skiing to.
It was a sport dominated by men - with a brain more wired towards risk taking / showing off and not wanting to lose face by backing out of something in front of peers
Most fatalities across the world happen usually with very experienced pilots simply becuase they are the ones who spend the most time in the air. - Mountain giudes are the most likely people to die in an avalanche because they spend the most time there.
The risks, of course, are far higher than those in off piste skiing and knew a few pilots who are, sadly, no longer with us.
The group mentaility could also work in the other way too. Quite often pilots would check each others kit and fixings, discuss weather and routes and evaluate risks together which was a very positive thing.
there is a saying in aviation:
'There are old pilots and there are bold pilots but there are no old bold pilots'
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Interestingly the video has dissapeared. Henry has a habit of posting stuff, like the Ste Foy avalanche in January then having second thoughts and taking the video down.
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Pure speculation but that always felt like someone getting out of hospital and then going "Christ, I'm famous!" If you see what I mean.
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