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Cannot find it anywhere else so thought I would bring up the latest viewing.

A skier at La Mongie today skiing down a piste holding a selfie stick in front of him with a camera - first glance I thought it was his pole...... Thought it was only Graham Bell with a camera who tried that and he is a top skier. The one I spotted was not.

Is this a new fashion to go with go pros - at least they are fixed to the helmet.

Is this a rare sighting or just a commonplace nowadays - I fear if the latter even more accidents from non- concentrating skiers.
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All too common. Particularly on very flat, slow sections of green and blue runs. Imagine the viewing pleasure to be had!
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It always makes me want to ride just behind them, making rude gestures...
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GoPro poles have been in fairly common use since the GoPro 1 - 5 or 6 years depending on how you count. They weren't called selfie sticks back then. I don't know Mr Bell, but I've some shots of Terje and a few other "top" snowboarders using them 5 seasons back. So it's an old fashion.
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It always makes me want to ride just behind them, making rude gestures...

It has become my hobby, when skiing on piste, to photo bomb (GoPro bomb?) selfie stick skiers. I match their speed and every turn, so that I'm in the video the whole time. I know it's childish but.... Toofy Grin
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Last season one set off in front of me without looking up hill, after an evasive manoeuvre I then threatened to shove it somewhere which would have produced a clip that could not be hosted on sH. Twisted Evil
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Funniest label I heard was, "Dick with a stick"!
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@Zero_G, I love a bit of GoPro bombing! A few seasons back we were doing it at one of the local hills here, and I was talking about it on the SnowJapan forum. Turns out I had bombed one of the other posters on there, and he even provided the video evidence!


http://youtube.com/v/v_gtdez9u4k
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Before the days of action cams, we used to have a 'photo day' when everyone in the group brought along their video and still cameras and we took time out to take panoramas, jump shots etc. Some of these produced very memorable shots that I look back on now with affection. It was understood that this was a form of rest day (actually, usually it was just a couple of hours) when everyone took photos of other people, to be exchanged later.

To my mind, GoPro Teletubby and stick shots have become so ubiquitous that I just get bored, however spectacular the scenery or skiing is. I think they're fine for a part of a video but I'd make a plea for people to try and mix their shots a bit, if they want to elevate their video above the mundane. Try some hand-held shots by someone stationary; some low-level ones with people jumping overhead; some of the surrounding 'furniture' like signposts etc. If the view is good, do a pan with the camera on a level plane, and so on. Even consider some still shots .....

I'm not saying people should turn into film directors. But perhaps take your compact camera along as well and use it to get something different to mix with the GoPro stuff.

I'm sure most people are aware enough to know when sking with one pole outstretched and concentraing on a moving selfie is going to be dangerous, but it's the minority that aren't that concerns me.
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We were on a chair in PdS last week and saw a guy going down a flat piste filiming himself on one of these going "WWWwooooooo!!!!!!".

The gimp.
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Bizarre form of narcissism.
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Use my iphone to record my 6yr old skiing. Thats all. Never recorded myself and don't own a selfie stick.
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Bizarre form of narcissism.


This x 1000 wasn't there something in the paper about this?

Filming yourself going up a chairlift? I'd watch! rolling eyes
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I don't get this. At all.
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To my mind, GoPro Teletubby and stick shots have become so ubiquitous ....
I'm not saying people should turn into film directors. But perhaps take your compact camera along as well and use it to get something different to mix with the GoPro stuff.
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I'm sure most people are aware enough to know when sking with one pole outstretched and concentraing on a moving selfie is going to be dangerous, but it's the minority that aren't that concerns me.

The really annoying thing is that it's compulsory to watch. Oh, wait, it's actually not compulsory.

Sure, there's a lot of this stuff, and it's all the same. But there's a lot of reality TV/ music/ whatever, and it's all the same. The thing is, you don't have to "consume" what you don't want. That's kind of the reason there's a "play" button there. Don't press it if it upsets you.

I'd say that people carrying £400 of camera probably ride more cautiously overall than those who aren't. So whilst I'd love to see the statistics that prove that GoPro use is dangerous, I shan't hold my breath.

I think the truth is that haters like to whine, and can't do that if they don't press "play".
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and that gimp referred to a few posts back (plus most of the others) will probably overdub all those "yeehaw whooop whoop!" with their favourite band.
Fortunately, GEMA, the German performing rights cartel, blocks all such vids on youtube, so acts as a 5hit vid with 5h1t music alert, saving me 2 minutes of my life.

Liking the idea of go-pro bombing.
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@philwig, +1, well said.
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Funniest label I heard was, "Dick with a stick"!

I like "the wand of narcissism" Wink
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Hey i'm a dick with a stick LOL. I like to watch myself back on video and check my technique out as I am going for my Level 1 re-sit later this year and it was my riding position that I failed on.

So my excuse is its educational wink
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@chrisrawles, what can you learn about your riding position when all you can see is your head and the clown bombing you behind?
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After a while, photos (or videos) are the only memory of a holiday you'll have - so the more the merrier IMV.
Even if they do have an idiot waving in the background.
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I did manage to catch a skier taken a huge tumble in the background of mine from over Xmas. I will try to get a link to it. Could be worth £250 on You Been Framed
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@call me dave, +1
@chrisrawles, +1
@under a new name, +1
@Ray Zorro, +1
@chrisrawles, +1

I guess if people want to selfie then so be it. narcissism or happy memories, who cares?

Now I'm off to borrow a selfie stick and record myself sitting on a fence.
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TBH if people stop posing for selfies every few hundred metres, making random duck faces and trying to make themselves look like backcountry legends on the fluff on the side of the piste for their GoPros then we're gonna have to find something else to laugh at. Long may it continue Wink
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Where I come from actually laughing at people is rude, but it is mildly curious to see all those people riding about carrying *two* selfie sticks, only without cameras on them. Plenty to whine about there, if you don't have a life.
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I like to watch myself back on video and check my technique out as I am going for my Level 1 re-sit later this year and it was my riding position that I failed on.


Isn't your body position compromised by the fact you're waving a camera on a stick around trying to stay in shot?
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aka The Wand of Narcissism
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"I think the truth is that haters like to whine, and can't do that if they don't press "play"."

I know that I don't have to watch. And I don't. My comments were meant to be more constructive and suggest that people themselves might like to try out a veriety of additional techniques so they themselves would get more out of the filming exercise.

And why is it that anyone who expresses a reasonable concern is immediately labelled a "whiner"? Rather than calling people names, it's surely more adult to make the case for these selfies, as some of the other more mature postes have done.
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@philwig wrote:

The really annoying thing is that it's compulsory to watch. Oh, wait, it's actually not compulsory.


Love some of these comments. Just bought a GoPro, helmet attachment and a 'narcissistick' as they're being called to film myself and friends doing activities as I fancy myself as a bit of a video editor. Yes I'll mix lots of different clips and stills and put it together with a music video of my choice.

Yes I'll post it on my Facebook wall as a memory for me and for friends to see what a great time I had whilst boarding, if they can be bothered.

As the chap said above, no-one's forcing you or anyone else to watch. I have some great video footage of my kids skiing set to music and now they're grown up I still really enjoy seeing it.

Won't be long before my knees are old and bu gg ered and I won't be able to do it anymore so why not have fun while you can and record the memories?!

Feel free to videobomb me in a nice way. It'll add to the entertainment!
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We got a great video from the ski school for my daughters lessons, without a go pro and stick it just wouldn't have been the same, they cut it up, used stills, different shots.
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@under a new name, You have to adjust the camera angle so you get more than just your head!.
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Yup, pretty pure narcissm, and mixing in other angles makes better videos, won't stop me selfieing every now and again though!
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@galpinos, If you have good body management then no! If you watch an experienced snowboarder that flies around the pistes you will notice most of the movement comes from the hips down.
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IF I DONT LOVE MYSELF NO ONE ELSE IS GOING TO DO A GOOD ENOUGH JOB@!$# Shocked Shocked Embarassed NehNeh
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@galpinos, If you have good body management then no! If you watch an experienced snowboarder that flies around the pistes you will notice most of the movement comes from the hips down.


I see lots of experienced boarders, not many good ones though. I thought you meant skiing, boarding is a different kettle of fish, it's easy!
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I ride with a quiet upper body, but a pole takes a bit of getting used to. Not dissimilar from riding with a chest pack or a heavy backpack.

Short poles mean you have to hold your arm out, which is tiring, where as long poles are generally heavy.

If you were learning (most still need to even if they're not), then it wouldn't help, if that's the point.
If you crash badly on a nice carbon fibre pole then you're down £70 or so.
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My son went parapenting in Verbier the other day (christmas present) and the instructor that took him had a selfie/Gro Pro stick for stil photos which he then emailed to my son. The photos were great, but I can't see why you'd use one skiing, apart from looking a tool.
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At least with the selfie you have something going on in the frame, POV gets a bit dull unless you are skiing really gnarly lines.
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@Zero_G, I love a bit of GoPro bombing! A few seasons back we were doing it at one of the local hills here, and I was talking about it on the SnowJapan forum. Turns out I had bombed one of the other posters on there, and he even provided the video evidence!


http://youtube.com/v/v_gtdez9u4k


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